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Sounds like fun. What are the drawbacks? Why aren't we all doing this occasionally to add a bit of interest?
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I just wanted to give a mention and offer congratulations to the Diss MCC who organised a great Trials Demonstration at the Eye Show over the August Bank Holiday weekend just gone.
There were 10 or more riders each day, including kids, novices, inters and experts, riding 8 little sections dug out of the showground just to give an idea of what trials is about. Apart from someone or other riding at nearly all times there were 4 or so 'shows' where everybody rode with a background commentary about what was going on. The experts finished off with a few tricks and stunts to add some razzamatazz.
Whilst there weren't throngs of people clamouring to know more, there was a steady stream of them throughout the 2 days which I think was an excellent result.
I rode but wasn't part of the organising team so I'm not sure of the financial aspects of putting the demo on, but it seemed to be a popular, fun and effective PR exercise and maybe something for other clubs to consider.
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Have you tried looking through the Lo-Fi version of the forum you're interested in - Beta in this case. The Lo-Fi link is at the bottom of the page. And Lo! all old articles shall be visible.
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Why don't you tell us what your rider number was and what club you're a member of?
As far as I know you appeared at the trial unknown, unentered and uninvited and rode around like a loon until you gave the paramedics something to do on a Sunday. Anti-social and not very bright.
If you take my advice you'll use your period off work and games to have a think about how you could have gone about things in a slightly more responsible manner. It's no problem and little expense to join a club and the ACU. Do that and you can come and ride at all the trials in your area. Come and offer your services as an observer if you don't want to jump straight in. Then have a go at some real sections rather than razzing around - you'll find plenty to get your adrenalin going.
If you feel guilty about it (which you should imo) don't dwell on it too much - we've all done stupid things which we regret in hindsight. I would suggest if you do want to get involved on an official basis - apologise to the club (I can tell you who to email), claim to be a reformed man and go from there.
Hope you get better soon and rebuild the Monty.
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Glenn. If you're interested I took some pictures of him on his Fantic back in 1984 at the Kickstart TV programme. KICKSTART101 on here has put them up on Facebook Here towards the bottom of the page. Nice looking bike by the way.
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Just to clarify. This coming weekend is the third round of the Eastern Centre Expert, Inter, Youth A Championships, not Round 2 as advertised on the calender.
12th April, Trials Park, Corton, Lowestoft, NR32 5HX.
Entries close on the 10th April so you've still just about got time to enter if you'd like to. Observers and helpers always very welcome.
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Sorry Andy, quick Austin 7 love-in.
Cool. I used to have the ex-Stanley Mann blown trials Chummy. Had to sell the engine to finance it all unfortunately but after building a normally aspirated engine it was still a bit of a beast. Got clocked by a mate in a Silver Eagle at an estimated 80mph on the way back from the Lands End one year! Bit scary as you could only move the steering wheel about 2mm at a time at that speed!
Getting back to bikes I always found my bike trials skills gave me a real advantage, over other drivers in car trials, in finding grip and using momentum etc.
Good fun but many more
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Hmmm. Maybe not. Now I've had a better look that one was on CD and all the transactions from that seller are 'Private' so you can't see what the 'feedback' relates to. Why, I wonder, if you've got nothing to hide?
The hard copies do turn up quite often though.
Anyway depending what you want to look up there are parts diagrams on Apexmotorsports' website.
Apex Website
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They are quite often on eBay. There was one on last week that you could have got for
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Here's what JSE and Subira reckoned last year on 315/PWK jetting matters:-
'Here's the jetting for a Keihin on a 300 Pro, and I'm guessing you should probably start with a 118/120 main on the 250:
MAIN: 122
PILOT: 45 (48 OK)
NEEDLE: JJH (CENTER OF FIVE POSITIONS)
SLIDE: 3.5
AIRSCREW: 2.5 TURNS OUT
FLOAT HEIGHT: ARMS IN LEVEL PLANE WITH FLOAT BOWL BASE (PARALLEL)
Jon'
'SubiraSep 24 2008, 07:39 PM
I had one fitted, this is what I have in my black book!
Pilot 42,
main 118,
needle GFH,
slide 3.5'
You won't be far out with Subira's settings. You'll need an inline fuel filter as well if you haven't got one as the PWK hasn't got an integral one like the Dellorto.
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Yup. Sounds like a carb out job to make sure it hasn't got any bits in the float bowl. Take all the jets out and make sure everything is blown out with compressed air or a can of carb cleaner. Make sure your float height is right as well.
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Well there you go - all becomes clear. Thanks, Martin.
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Yeah I reckon '99. As far as I know also it was only the '99 that had the 'black' finish to the fork tubes/stanchions. The '98s were 'silver' chrome - not 100% sure on this but it's what I've always thought.
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Well your frame number is around 400 lower than mine so I reckon it's probably a '99 or possibly a '98.
This might give you a better idea - www.apexmotosports.com/Montesa_Models.htm
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I'm guessing the answers to my own questions!
Forks - grey/black silvery
Front pipe - black
Tank - black
Brake - single pot
Am I close?
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If you can't put a pic up. What colour are your fork tubes (stanchions)? Front pipe? Tank? Is your front brake single or twin pot?
We can soon ID it I expect, but I'm not sure if the frame number comes in to it - it doesn't seem to correlate with anything on my bike unless it's in some code that I don't understand.
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To me it sounds like a tiny droplet of water in your carb still. When you stripped it did you blow through all the jets and holes with compresed air or a can of carb cleaner?
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I've been running an NGK Iridium BPR6EIX in mine for the last year without touching it once in that time. It's noticeably crisper off the bottom compared to the standard plug - bit more expensive but definitely better IMO.
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If they work, Dave Silver should have some - 01728 833020. David Silver Spares. They were
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You can be competitive on the
(2mins 50secs).I think you'll find that most people back in the day didn't like them very much though as there were much better bikes available like the Fantics for example. I rode one for a bit in the mid '80s and always quite liked it, although as you say it was a heavy old lump. But plenty of go after a TY175! If I was riding twinshock now I'd definitely consider one just because it's different and because it's GREEEN!
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Hi there. Yes there is an air-cooled class in some clubs, although not that many at the moment I'd say - none of our local clubs have one yet as far as I know for example.
I'd have thought if you just want to do as you say that it would be worth a punt as long as you're satisfied that it's all there and mechanically satisfactory. I wouldn't want to pay more than a couple of hundred for it though - mind you I do have a reputation for tightness!
You'll almost certainly have issues with bits if you want to use it seriously though. I can't imagine that any plastics are still available. Rear shock bits? Unlikely. USD forks from that era were notoriously leaky. Bits for the engine? Don't know. Brake pads still available? Again don't know - maybe.
As Lingo says an early 315 would be good bet or if you like the thought of A/C mono maybe a Yam mono. Most, if not all, bits are still available for both of them. For me I'd always go for something I could get bits for easily.
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Any leads for you in this thread, Lee?
http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3434
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Dan. I was a member of the Motor Cycling Club (MCC) for years and have competed in Citroen Dyanes and Austin 7s, and in 2006 did the Edinburgh (In Derbyshire!) Trial on a Honda 400/4 on road tyres! Their trials are all a flippin' long way from East Anglia though so I've got back into 'modern' trials recently.
They hold 3 annual trials, 2 of which usually have a start near Basingstoke. You ride through the night usually, sometimes doing up to around 5 sections in the dark (bonkers but a real buzz) and finish around mid-afternoon the next day. They take you to some amazing places and they really are real trials - of physical and mental strength, and bike prep. They've been held for years and years so you get a real sense of history when you're riding hills that have been used since the early 20th Century too.
All their sections are run on the principle of get to the top without footing and you're clean. Dab and you've failed! Certainly concentrates the mind, and the feet! The hills are mostly green lanes or by-ways and as such are not too extreme, and the cars will go the same route usually, so they are not too bad. However the organisers often put little diversions in to sort the men from the boys. There's usually some timed special tests which can be good fun as well. As Pete says you'll probably find yourself reasonably competitive and your bike will be ideal - not too much of a handful when you're tired.
I can thoroughly recommend them. There's a real sense of achievement even to get a finisher's certificate, let alone an award.
MCC Website
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