the addict Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Launched yesterday at the Milan show, 8 pages of replies on TC about it, pics up on here for past 24 hours and still nothing on Lampkins or the Beta sites?????? good job we have TC or we may have missed it coming out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinell Posted November 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I agree about the main Beta website but John, Gary and the boys will have been too busy setting up the show to worry about updating websites. Why bother when TC can publish your news instantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Launched yesterday at the Milan show, 8 pages of replies on TC about it, pics up on here for past 24 hours and still nothing on Lampkins or the Beta sites?????? good job we have TC or we may have missed it coming out By all accounts it has been a bit of a Press disaster. I did contact John Lampkin to try and get pre-release pics under embargo as I've done with other manufacturers, but it wasn't happening. Not through his fault, but Beta as a company don't get the whole Press thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I used to deal with an Italian company, absolute disaster, rubbish web site and most of the pics were pinched from ours as UK distributor. Almost as if they did nt want to sell any products, late deliveries, wrong deliveries just seemed interested in making the stuff and not selling it. This has to be the most exciting bike to come out since the 4RT and they have missed the boat in the first 24 hours, as you said another marketing disaster, the 07 Rev 3 2 stroke was just as bad, sure all the new pics were on here well before the dealers and Beta sites. Too many companies still think of web sites as something they reluctantly have to have these days as every one has one, they are really important now and should be given time to be updated with news, new products etc or we go elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot 3 Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) What I meant to do was this...pillock $8800.00 US dollars! As far as I am aware, there has been nothing official from Beta re pricing yet. In fact there's been nothing official from Beta period! As an aside, apart from the massive number of views on the front page article that are still rocketing up, the Beta forum on Trials Central has been the most viewed of ALL the forums this month - including the General ones. That's never happened before that a bike forum on here has beaten any of the "General" ones. centre of the Trials Universe...the TC Beta Forum It's been worth waiting for it looks superb even Mrs Slapshot thinks it looks the doggies danglers..persuasion time Edited November 15, 2006 by Slapshot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Spoke to Gary yesterday... and as Kinell says, they were all getting ready for the dirtbike show. The bike was basically going directly to the show so no chance for any additions or announcments. It is not down to Gary, John or anybody else at Beta UK to make "announcements". It is down to the factory. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot 3 Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Spoke to Gary yesterday... and as Kinell says, they were all getting ready for the dirtbike show. The bike was basically going directly to the show so no chance for any additions or announcments. It is not down to Gary, John or anybody else at Beta UK to make "announcements". It is down to the factory. End of. What's this virus marketing nonsense I heard about the other week, they are not using TC fro that are they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishy Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 The pictures of the bike certainly have got everyone buzzing to learn more, and I must say looking at the motor and bike overall, it does look a fair tool. The rest is hearsay until she's out on the hill, if it rides as good as it looks, then she will sell, no doubt about it. The Beta found good traction with the two stroke, this bugger should grip like big John to his wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa. Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Am i right in thinking Bou has gone on to a Mont? He must have tried the beta and thought he had more chance on the Mont.He wouldn't have moved just for the money would he? So is the mont better engine wise. Dougie moved for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) Am i right in thinking Bou has gone on to a Mont? He must have tried the beta and thought he had more chance on the Mont. He wouldn't have moved just for the money would he? So is the mont better engine wise. Dougie moved for the money. Impossible to say for sure didn't he try the rev 3 before he signed mont? There is very lttle money in trials so bou would have tried the mont before signing for sure, but a 2t works beta worse than a 4rt? Doubt it. As the trials market is so flat at the moment I doubt if this bike wil sell much at all, who will buy it? The 4rt was slow to start with and its the 3rd year its been for sale now before there are any great numbers, so surely alot of the four stroke fans have bought already? 8 pages on here means jack s**t as far as sale of a new 4t, surely? Edited November 16, 2006 by Nigel Dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4it Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I bet if you look at the sales figures for the two stroke mont compared to the four stroke i bet they are not even half, they should have run with both models. At least beta have not put all there eggs in one basket,the two strokes are where there bread and butter sales will be coming from for some time yet i suspect.Cirtainly at the money there asking, beta's are usually sensibly priced! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Nigel, this bike may be the bike which will create more sales for riders like me that have to date had no interest in 4 strokes before. This is the first time I have ever shown any interest in buying a banger and if the motor is relaible and does all the right things I am sure I will be buying one next year if available and can afford one. This may also apply to many of the Mont riders who would prefer a lighter, less complicated 4 stroke, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa4banger Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dont forget lad's its a beta its full of italian engineering and cast aluminium hopefully beta get their finger out with some engine reliabillity I traded my rev3 02 270 in for a sy250f and shes sweet as a nut sounds mean and is full of lovely billet parts up the frenchies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennie Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 If its priced at around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonsurge Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I used to deal with an Italian company, absolute disaster, rubbish web site and most of the pics were pinched from ours as UK distributor. Almost as if they did nt want to sell any products, late deliveries, wrong deliveries just seemed interested in making the stuff and not selling it. The nerd in me thinks that this is actually a good thing. Maybe Beta's total lack of fanfare and fuss means that all their attention and energy has gone into building a competitive, reliable bike that will sell based on reviews and reputation rather than flashy and expensive marketing. The theory that the actual product quality is inversely proportional to the amount of money spent on advertising. Quality sells itself etc. This is hopelessly unrealistic and total rubbish in terms of sales volumes in today's global marketplace (and the current state of the UK trials market in particular) of course, but I still like the Italian attitude of "if you build it, they will come". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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