johnnyboxer

You could see it at the Scott yesterday, the 4RT's (carrying more weight) dropped into every nook and cranny, jamming the front wheel and stopping the rider - whereas the 2T's just were more 'manageable' in the sections..............if that's the correct phrase

Ha You'll get shot

Probably about right

Section severity is the main issue for a lot of Clubman - post 50 They simply do not want to risk an injury which may take a while to recover from Look at Yorks Classic - I do not think they are short of numbers Additionally entries at £15 add up, when you want to ride 2 or more trials per week, when it was £10 it seemed more reasonable

No comments? So everyone prefers arena type 'outdoor' sections on a small venue?

Build it and they will come !

This year's event https://www.facebook.com/ardrock/?hc_ref=ARQ9QWG7VfJPcDiZmP_zx95TJgaq4yeL9FGTVoW0KxBkhSjtLzdgokYZ_dx-AvhSDK4

If the MTB world can put up such a world class event in Swaledale, why can't Trials - for our home GP? I don't see a shortage of access, for artics and the associated Trial GP Circus Show the rest of the world, how good our 'natural' terrain and a bit of rain is

Maybe

One thing I agree with you on

I have a XR400R and the power delivery from my 4RT is totally different The XR will grip for England, thumper, plonk style............whereas the 4RT doesn't It needs more commitment to ride the 4RT well Personally I get better results on a 20 year old TYZ

You will either sell it within 2 months or keep it forever

Riding as slow as they can and the flash lads usually get beaten by an old bloke in his 60's wearing overalls on a bike that is 15 years old and held together with gaffa tape !

In what way, do you know how it works? Did the REV 4T have problems starting?

Why do they have it and not a normal gravity fed fuel tap? What does it do different and how does it work? As far as I know it doesn't have a fuel pump and is just a normal carbed bike

Deal has finished now, it was back in Spring

I got a pair of X11's for £125 which I thought was cheap That's less than the price of one rear tyre for my road bike & I usually get through a pair of road bike tyres each season and a pair cost £250 You beat the benefit of new trials tyres

All good points I will try not to fully shut off (which I do) and try to find grip on the overrun

I have seen you a few times and you are one of the best UK 4RT riders I have seen Thanks for the tips I don't rev it or wind it up enough - I will practise that

So how do you 'work' the throttle right to maintain grip?

What's wrong with a normal Michelin X11?? I have a decent APICO gauge, just the operator is a numpty and needs to let his tyres down

Thanks for that, I think you're right Most of us are over biked and would be better on something tamer

I think the power on the 4RT comes in too brutally for most clubmen, watching Bou (et al) at Tong, they just rev those motors to the moon - where we can't control that sort of power delivery It was interesting watching Bou, that on some muddy, snotty UK type sections his bike just spun up too and he fived that section Also, interestingly not many top UK riders (if any) choose to ride a Mont in the British Series Some have tried in the past, but returned to something else Food for thought

A mate has a 300 4T and it is so smooth, on the traction

Probably just me, as I've being riding something else all spring and summer It's always been a bit 'all or nothing', with 4RT's for me Pity as they're a lovely bike, just flipping annoying Might try a Beta 4T