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I think I'd finished my warm up at least Might of guessed

Looks like I will need to take the video camera then

Do you have a postcode for the venue Pete or will you be marking it up. Can't remember how to get to it

Bikespace - You excelled there mate! Was this flow of creative rapport Cider induced by any chance?

Actual displacement of Taddy's bike at the US World Round last year was 300cc's. Really? In that case that makes it look even worse!

I get the feeling that the US trials community has something we are sorely missing over here! I could imagine what would happen if a youth rider fund raiser was done as a general nationwide campaign in the UK... comments like " I aint funding their holidays in spain" and " If they can run round in a big camper van then they can pay their own bills" etc etc would be rife. The US want a champ. They see that Pat could be that champ and they are supporting the cause with no question. I for one admire them for that.

Oooooops yup, it is the 125cc Air cooled . Taddy was on the new 4t of course and that was the machine I was referring too.

Yes the ACU would lose out Steve Ireland does run his Enduro's as a business and does ok. The entry fees of course are way higher than Trials and the entries are normally quite high so theres more money in it to start with! But, the land probably don't cost as much ?

Sorry but when I rode one it was as flat as a pancake when given some stick. I saw Taddy ride one at the TTC USA and the lack of power was so noticeable, that when he was attempting some of the bigger stuff, he was virtually getting off the bike before the hazard as he knew it wasn't gonna make it! To be fair, it was last year so they may of added another 100cc to it since then to make it competitive

Yes . There definitely is another way! (Bear with me ) When I was doing the club stuff, the view was that I was a volunteer which was taking up my time (and money) and if people are gonna moan and p*** me off then stuff this I will get out! and thats what I did. But... It is quite possible to make a part time income at running trials as a business so therefore you might be prepared to put up with all that c*** We use to clear around

Did you see on Top Gear when they put a MKII escort against a modern standard (Diesel) saloon and the modern car wiped the floor. The thing there that is very impressive to me is the driver not the car. The car looks a pig to drive so to drive it like that is awesome.

I was reading OTF's post and it all started to come flooding back how it use to be. I had forgotten that we use to stop for lunch and then ride the sections in reverse but then the trials I rode were just one route so it was quite easy to do. I did enjoy the gathering at lunch although when it was peeing down, sitting in the van soaking wet and cold was no fun knowing you had to go back out and do it again. The heating in the transit van we had then wasn't too good if I remember well! Doing sections in reverse was good though as obviously you effectively ride 20 different sections instead of 10 x 4 times. It could work again (probably in the summer only) by starting a little earlier than normal but with modern trials being multi routed these days it may make it too difficult. 2 route trials could probably do it. The only thing is, some riders (normally Experts) take an age to look at some sections before they ride them and they would be doing this all over again on the second laps after lunch! Also Pete, as we rode the Bewdley trial together, it started quite early and I was finished by around 1.30pm. So after packing up etc I was back before 3pm which meant the wife said when I got in, " Oh, you're back early, you can fit the garden hose pipe and tap now then" . Getting back early has its down falls as well too p.s. I have added the poll

I know I am a bit slow here but was wetting meself when I read this

Laia's result is stunning. Beating Loris Gubian and Sam Haslam is no mean feat.

This is an interesting Topic and one that I could comment on with some experience !!RANT WARNING !! When I started back in trials 2005, I got involved in a club straightaway of which were just 2 people and some family support. I helped them out with a website etc, wrote some scoring software and got really involved. We put a lot of effort into it with local press coverage, TC & TMX coverage and write ups and generally tried hard to do some good well organized trials. We had a high youth contingent in our club so we put up a Midland youth championship (which our chairman sponsored) which was supported by some of the other clubs in our centre.(thank you) It was good fun and I really enjoyed it ... until ... the moaners set in and started to p*** us right off. This was at Committee level and local level. At committee level there were some 'Egos' from certain long term members that had to be challenged and at club level , there was attitude locally from outside our club which was just pathetic to be honest. Both issues combined caused unnecessary agro which ultimately ensured that we decided to poke it and pack it in. On the committee their were some genuine people in it for the sport and working hard, then there were some people of which the sport was secondary to their status. Those are the people who need to take a fresh look at their contribution to the sport! Also, one point about the trials moaners, they fall into the category of people who will tell you how it should be done but when asked to contribute and help, you don't see them for dust! So to answer the question, do we need clubs.. I strongly believe YES we do. Clubs are the lifeblood of the sport and the people that run them need to be given some help and encouragement. So on that note, I strongly suggest that if you are in the moaner category, then either go and help the club or go and do something else and leave the sport to people who want to enjoy it and respect the people who work hard putting on trials for the benefit of others. 100% of our local riders now have 5 less local trials to ride a year (where we were averaging nearly 80 riders per trial) just because of a few % being complete a****holes and spoiling it for the rest. How many other clubs have seen or see this as a problem?

Yeah, I got the bug again now . Don't know how long it will last this time though Why I never bought a gasser before I just don't know!

So we are going up next Saturday then Pete ? 10ish all day ?

Great mate - we can set some sections up and have a larf

I will come down Pete and have a play

Final Results - Round 1 - Saturday 1 BOU 6 2 RAGA 11 3 FUJINAMI 42 4 CABESTANY 50 5 FAJARDO JERONI 54 6 LAMPKIN DOUGIE 63 7 DABILL JAMES 69 Section Breakdown

Echo the sentiments - Well done our boys :

I cant believe you posted that in the same thread as Kumho1 by the way, what happened to it when it landed? Looks like it was about to go heads down

Thanks for the info Bigfoot & Dabnabit

I think there is a general perception in trials that if you have factory support then you are set up good and proper. The situation I think is far from that. I would be interested to hear what a punters view is with respect to what a rider gets as part of a 'factory' deal.