nigel dabster

it sold for 2300 that's what its worth (?) that's $4155.

re-sale for a 2012 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=201029622288&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:3160 when the auction ends if anyone doesn't know how auctions work. oh it has now so resale value on a 2012 as a guide is about £2.3k

we all need to learn from experience so if one bike eats plugs check another bike more than once a year?

bultaco uk dave renham is your man if anyone can

They are available in the uk pm me if you want one.

Hes not joking, do you regularily check the gap and clean and inspect (colour etc)? I change my plugs every 3 months or so.

It hasn't been in our hands for a while I must agree, fortunately we do have the ACU which is democratically ours.

Apparently dadoff you know even less about trials and its market than I thought. One sentence you say Montesa Honda has the best re sale the previous that cheap Chinese bikes are the way to go. In one sentence you say the demise of the British bike market was allowing imports to get ahead the next advocate it? But Trials was more popular in the 70's because bikes were heavier? Really? What you fail to grasp/overlook/avoid is what people really want and choose to buy, based on your own experience/anecdotal evidence/clips from history. The leap from FIM minimum weight to the mass production of Chinese trials bikes is one that will not happen. As I have said before, several times, reliability is not the massive problem you think and if it were then sales of bikes of the more reliable brands would far outweigh any others. This is not the case, moreover the most popular brand (in sales) is probably the gas gas and its about as light as it gets and the one you have termed unreliable on more than one occasion. The Chinese will not produce a bike which will sell 1000 units worldwide. This really is the last time I try and explain it, the fim weight limit cannot change bike manufacturers sales, a 2k bike (even if it were possible) isn't wanted if its heavier and not like the current crop, and mostly to turn the clock back to heavy bikes is never going to happen as the vast number of second hand bikes would be obsolete, nevermind a whole set of rules and club officials drafted in to cope with the management of the dadoff weight rules ensuring bashplates were thick enough frames welded at weak points and extra bearings in the gearbox.

Wrong and wrong again, when will you realise you are talking rubbish. market forces and basic economics do not work for trials, the overall number of bikes sold is not directly related to new bike costs, not in our world anyway. The demand for new bikes would not vary greatly if heavy out dated bikes were 2k peeps wouldn't want them, or else the randonner from gas gas and previously the cheap 125 scorpa would have been a rip roaring success? The fim rule would only give you what you want if the weight were put where you want and the riders of the acu clubs agree to it. They wont. And they are happy to accept all the 2014 bikes and previous years are obsolete? The changes you want would mean new casing casting new rads new frames etc etc and that bike aint gonna be 2k. not counting the increased size of gearbox and on and on. Even if it was a good idea, its not as most bikes are pretty reliable anyway,the manufacturers wouldn't do it en masse so no one will anyway. WAKE UP!

I don't think its "programs" as such just that motorcycling and trials in particular is popular and accepted, particularly in a small area in NE spain

Any 125 will need more clutch and rev technique than a 200/250 with no real difference in weight between them, all modern bikes will feel light compared to a techno.

gasser is fine

bought a few bikes from them and always had excellent service, if they cant make a go of it who can?

I hope this isn't true?

nothing there would make me want to buy a Yamaha. Even though they are my favourite jap brand going back to my first purchase back in1972 and 73. Guess yam must think the same else they would make them for general release............

You don't listen to one word do you or counter any statement with reason? Not one comment in 12 pages has said trials is in a healthy state, this whole thread is supposed to be about the ridiculous rule change by the FIM (Fiddling In the Margins) at WTC level not what you and your mates have experienced or the heavy bikes you want at local level. for the fourth time whose rules?when and where would these be enforced? and how by having heavier bikes would it make one person join the sport? No one has said heavier bikes would spoil trialing its just not wanted or else you would have a successful company selling heavy parts, surely you can see that? or maybe not? And graham Jarvis is a typical rider of a heavy bike? Reliability isn't an issue for most. We all want a cheaper sport but there isn't a demand for cheap bikes as bliss proved with his cheap Chinese thing and the scorpa 125 a few years back.

more power? the clip above doesn't back that up though?

fund thenmselves to promote someones product

I see the famous factory deal. my bets are he wont have a carpet in the service truck with his name on it..............

looked at 2 none mention factory deal no mention here http://www.hondapror...om/world_trial/

I imagine if he gets the same deal as JR its not much of a deal where does it say this? just wondering?

thought bultaco had some like this one year?

Factory montesa?

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