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They are noisy in a much different way to 2 strokes. Conversly to you shedracer I have found a few lads who prefer the Beta to the 4rt. Accesibility to dealers may have something to do with that...........

why?

Get stuff on pallets if you have use of a fork lift. Spectacular indoor has to be stop allowed, but show what novices can do too. With a ramp here and there you can get them up and over stuff. Did you say logs and lumberjacks? that's your starting point for obstacles.

where in the uk could you test ride a 4rt?

Sherc dealers will have sherco wheels.

don't bother with front use that money for tyres.

not forgetting that the termi vs. standard gives no improvement in performance.

where from?

...or alternatively no one was daft enough to fork out the extra when demand isn't as great as the hype on here?

Anyone been this year? Is it any good?

Explains the grip issue a bit.

Happy to supply a bike to the us, cost of uk bike plus shipping plus $500 for me.

Ours are plasticky so don't rot, and the straps are long enough to wear as a rucksack, if this doesn't work then you will have to go custom made. Expensive?

Dave what beta did you have before?

I think you are missing my point. In our local club we stick steadfastly to the stop allowed rules which are preferred by the majority. Two reasons, firstly the club has very little ground and sections do not lend themselves to no-stop at all. Secondly because the beginners are very short on skill and confidence, its very easy to hesitate or pause before tackling even a very small rock or log, which is why a failure would occour. In reality once they progress from the easy easy route they ride mostly no-stop anyway. No stop trials do not bring in entries, its good trials or bad trials that dictate numbers surely? If No stop trials were to bring in more entries why hasn't that worked at BTC or WTC level? I am certainly not opposite everyone but I can see both sides, as stated only recently in the WTC rules thread I have stated "rule change makes no difference".

I think the opposite. For younger riders 5 each time they hesitate (a fail) is not good.

Downside you have a bit of overrun, the opposite of quick shut off, useful in really muddy conditions.

On my 300 I had a long front pipe low comp head and weight. I would not recommend a slow throttle tube, but that's just me. As an aside I then went to a 250 and left it standard, much better.

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just went into local papershop and the guy got them for us guess through his wholesaler or http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Newspaper-Delivery-Bags-for-Door-to-Door-Distribution-/230695608716?pt=UK_Envelopes_Mailing_Bags&hash=item35b687a18c

I really don't like montesas but that's nice!

New bike and we might get "weather"?

we use paper boy bags, plastic coated work well. Richmond mc use specifically made ones cos the do a lot of flag marking between sections more like old fashioned oversized duffle bags.

So if you want to play about buy a programmeable body and the leads?

how much do you think Bou gets? how much do you think Fuji gets? The montesa hrc racing team per year costs how much? a myth?