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These bike look to me to be alot more time than money , if the owners built them themselves . And that Motobecane is a obvious self expression ! It's beutiful ! Glenn

Just ran across this thread boys ... All I can say is that Tal W. is a phenom !!!! Glenn

Wayne , I'd have to say the top one in your line of photos is a work of art ,that I'd bet may work well too ... Keep us posted with your progress and imagination . Glenn

If you look at the edge of the rings ,(may need a magnifying glass...)you will most likely see the edges are shaped differently , as in there is a 1st and 2nd ring and a top and bottom to each one and they may be different thicknesses too. Just follow the instructions on how and where to install them and all will be good ... Glenn (and sometimes they are made of different material )

I've had days like that ...

OK , Makes sense now ... Glenn

What the heck does " spit the dummy " mean or imply ??? Glenn

A picture is worth a 1000 words ...And some are now spacing them out a little too ,for a slightly wider stance. As to the swingarm guard ,I found a spare on Ebay a few years ago , but you may want to contact Bill Pye ! He's got the fantic bits near you Glenn (and yes I need to clean my bike !!!)

Try France Trial Classic ???

That's why I ran a 19 inch on the whitehawk replica I built for my son ... Trail 90 tires abound ... It's a long thread but you get the idea ... http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/topic/20753-serious-ty-80-mods/ Glenn

I saw this a while back when doing some R&D work for a Race engine ... http://www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/2258 I've never heard anything else about it ... Excessive cost ???? Glenn

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Starting sometime in the 240's production run the factory doubled the down tubes,Tube in a tube , for more strenght , But I don't think you can tell when looking at a frame , as they still bent/cracked... These days you will most likley want to steepen the fork angle a little anyways ,so a crack or distortion is no big deal... If your anywhere nere Classic trials in the UK , contact them , as Chris has a chassis jig set up to make them right ,and knows the time proven method of strengtening that weak spot And can set one up to compete with the modern boys if you so desire ... Glenn

I lived in Palm Springs in the late 70's thru the early 90's ... Used to be able to ride all over the valley , And you could ride up to the high desert too . But with all the land closures and OHV registration laws , I'd check with some local bike shops and or clubs to see if you can even ride a non green sticker-ed bike without the law taking it or fining you , and just wrecking you vacation !!! Good Luck ... Glenn PS. There was even maybe a world round?? in the desert below Big Bear back in the 90's ,And there may still be a riding area off highway 18/247 around Camp Rock Road ? Google it ... PSS. Contact www.socaltrials.com And they can tell if they still ride in the Lucerne Vally and what the laws may be ...

:xmas: Great Job , MERRY CHRISTMAS To ALL Glenn

Contact B&J Racing in TN. Bob is the dealer and can set up what ever you need , I believe ... Glenn

I need to see a photo of the Tandon ! Sounds way ahead of its time Glenn

If you get a set , let me know how long they are and how they work ... Thanks Glenn

Paul; Maybe just the padding on your tank rubber , depending on it's condition. Closed cell self adhesive weather strip can work wonders ... Glenn , PS . and thank Chris ...

I don't care what anybody says , That man can ride ...!!! But he did do a rollback in there and that's a quick five . Damn I wish I had bike control like that ! Heck put him a long ride whatever so he can sit down and still kick but . Glenn

"I personally think that if the hopping rule is in place then you shouldn't be allowed to dab while stationary ( as it was prior to 1997 ) and then the true skill of hopping will show rather than being able to stand there with a foot down. " AKA parked on your kickstand ...

Doug ...! My fork angle is not quite OE ! MERRY CHRISTMAS Glenn

Chrome ... is that over nickel ? And I wish I could come ride both days ! Glenn

Best post yet ... Cut right to the meat , And now it lays bleeding ... Style and finesse count in my book , Feet on the pegs , and if you need a dab , plan it and place it !

Google Rubber Magic ... And poke around , and yes it will soften old tires And so do all the homemade mixtures of tulene and alcohol and atf and such ... but I'm not a chemist !