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I stand corrected,are we married and i do not know about it? Could you be Jeroni's dad? Ok ,all uk trials riders

Never mentioned rain! Serious? Realistic maybe,look at Jorge in this years first two BTC rounds . Didn't really go to form.

Harsh words but WTC is not the be all and end all. Couple of wee trials over here Fajardo would get a riding lesson on if he ever entered not just by JD too. Anyway that Verigo's rubbish a half finished one barely won the SSDT with a pensioner on board,would have been a one two if JD hadn't lost his watch.

Looks like every bike you see in the pre 65 Scottish except this ones been starved!

i;ve had a 163 since they first came out late 06. Best bike I;ve owned done 100 or so trials (Including Scott) and countless plays probably runs better than the day I bought it. Totally stock so it's pretty quiet,can't see the silencer being any big deal looks really basic like the rest of the bike. It's a hoot to ride the biggest drawback is lack of ground clearance. As you say no many around, 163 (200 is still 163) is the one to have. Good on the road too and a fair range for a trials bike. You can;t go wrong with one. Don't know anything about the new ones look more trail based. Cheers the noo.

You been watching me for the last 2 hours trying to set up my old Fantic so I can have a play tomorrow? Gave up and taking the Ossa. Lifes to short for old bikes!

Aye you're better with a few mates who know the ropes so popping in to a local trial is a great source of advice. Is a load to learn from tyre pressures to fuel mixtures which is pretty critical to general stuff like best places for spares and to practice. Welcome to my world.

That bad then? So sad,the Ossa truly moved things forward. My pals got an Ossa and Scorpa dealership,obviously the Ossas a no go but he can move all the newScorpas he can get.Thing is when I look at the Scorpa it's no different to a 95 Fantic Section sitting in my garage except the Fantics got 6 gears and a power valve. That's progress!

Not half ,I've ridden for 40 years and never on a British built bike got a cheek to criticise. Spain is on it's knees and can still knock out a decent bike. I can't name the last the last uk built trials bike. I would ask my Dad but he's been away 10 years. PS Whats the best trials bike the US and New Zealand have made?i

Thanks Andy, didn't know about the not running flat always have to push it off the hill! My charger cuts out when the green light goes on? I've ordered new batterys so I'll look after them better. I've a theory that the wee boy is not shutting the throttle to slow down every time and just riding the rear brake. This wont be helping things, Many thanks..

I asked this question a few months back and didn't get any decent answers as they were just out. As above did the SSDT on one so it was pretty hardy and grip was fine in that event. Don't have the same feel as a Michelin and I had to run it softer than I normally would to get the similar grip. Might be fine on a 4rt though as it's a bit heavier than my Ossa?

Mmnnn,looks like I'm the only person who takes one to regular trials. I'll play safe,give the Scott a miss this year!

Did see that Slick was wanting someone that had one to give some input.

As above folks 9 year old about 40kg light use. What should I reasonably expect? Bike is as new standard batteries. Thanks in advance.

They've got a great track record on the electrics front probably make a better diesel.

Hi Toneh,my point would be all the lads that have been about for donkeys won't have much bother adapting to the old 4rt Most like myself have ridden everything from a Lambretta to a Tiger 100 off road a some stage and can adapt to what they have. Two years is still well down the learning curve really need to give it time. No way is a 4rt as easy to ride as the average two stroke,haven;t got one but I do have a twin cam Scorpa only the old hands can make much off it when they have a play. If a good result was my main concern I would stick to the strokers.

Hi Jono from Fife, you've left things a bit late but there's plenty 50 year old newcomers about. Check out Lothian Trials club as they run Trials aimed soley at Beginners and fun riders, just turn up on the day and ride that's it. You'll even get a bit help from members if required. I ride most of there trials so maybe see you around. Cheers the noo.

Been well debated Trials is like a secret society,never really promoted except at a low level by some well meaning clubs and dealers. I've probably more chance of getting invited.to a Ku Klux Klan meeting than a Trial and I live in the UK and I'm trials convener of my local club. Even in my club I struggle to get promotional material like flyers and posters and reports in the press but these things do work Really don't think it's anything to do with the sport just no one knows about it.

I'm about to take a 9 year old my wife and myself out on the bikes at our local practice area. How much planning and effort does that require compared with lying in bed playing an x box? I do think as I drive out my road with the bikes on the back no way are any of them having as much fun as me today.

My disc guard had to be removed to get the wheel out, can't really mind what the problem was Binned it they're all useless anyway. Canada's spot on with his advice,very easy to remove/fit when you know the drill.

I'm hopefully picking up a new Oset 2'0 racing today but nothing on a green ticket made me buy it, It's about ease of operation and low maintenance. If we found oil under Stonehenge it would be bottoming for the road there before you could charge it up. However I will feel a lot better when I arrive at the next trial in my 3 litre jeep knowing I've done my bit.

No quite on topic but. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks like this. To produce electricity you usually burn fossil fuels so you use this to power something that would burn a fossil fuel in the first place. Then you've got a battery that won't last forever and will be made of something pretty dodgy . As trials bikes use about a teaspoonful of fuel a just don't get it. Just think of everything you use that works from a battery,that's right,rely on it at your peril.

We have a big membership but keeping kids and young adults is a problem. I've said it before as long as they're making more over 40s we're in with a shout. I've felt for a while trials needs a change of direction,the rules,all the classes,routes,walking sections i's such a guddle. Must be a simpler way?

Aye your right I've this standard 340 Bultaco costing me about £2k and it;s still a bag of spanners probably needs about another £500 to make it rideable. Surely a simple rule is all machines should be as standard as resonably practical?

I don't know if you're qualified to say this with a Gas Gas and a Fantic? Just kidding. I love my Ossa because it's just that bit different I know they've had issues so if you're looking for Honda like reliability forget it; Apparently the 14 is the one to have and I've had no problems that were the bikes fault. Plus points are the way it fuels which I would describe as sublime,air filter which never needs attention and the radiator stays clear. Plastics great too. Minus takes a right kick to fire up bushed suspension linkage bit cheap and cheerful. Decider to me would be having a local dealer who knows his way around them. Cheers the noo as we say up here.