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simply put... get bike mot'd, get some one to date your bike owners club etc on headed paper, then get insurance best via a local broker who'll most likely give you a cover note there and then based on the frame no. get down your local dvla office stand in line ( take a paper you ll be there a couple of hours) give all the above to the very pleasent person behind the counter.. then either they ll issue you with a date related none transferable no. there and then complete with tax disc OR they might request a nice man visit your home address to examine said bike if alls okay the stuff comes in the post OR a nice man might come out to the dvla car park and view said bike and you might get a no. there and then or have to wait for the postman to deliver. technically there is no compulsion to examine the bike but ertain offices insist (leeds) others couldnt care less ( manchester) certainly i have in the recent past rung a bike up on sunday evening sent a photo and a rubbing of the frame no. on mon am and had them back on weds am gpt an mot and insurance that morning and had a registered bike by tea time weds. ( at manchester) Be nice very nice at the dvla.. they can make your visit easy or very difficult. if you have an inkling of what the reg no. might be just write asking for a log book, you never know your luck ( its worked before for me i took the reg no. from a clymer manual i got with the bike!)

fair points well made Woody. I can participate and compete in the clubman class, however on the experts route i'd have a much more physical experince. It is certainly the case that in the last 15 years that trials/ sections have become harder howver visit ANY pre 65/ classic . twinshock trial and the std/ quality of the bikes has leaped forward enourmously. i take my enjoyment from riding on a sunday and getting out in the garage as much as a wife two primary school kids work and two guinea pigs allow..

thanks for your kind comments, the case is one i have had for some time however fresh 'castings' do become available fairly regularly, i wouldnt hesitate to recommend Nametab as a source for anything villiers so ask there in the first instance, the primary chain tensioner is simply a piece of plastic drilled off center with a bolt through and exiting on the back of the chain case.it certainly takes up a bit of slack and saves having too worry about how many gaskets to put between the gearbox and engine the only caution i would offer is that you must not make the chain too tight as you will certainly not only stress the cranbkshaft and mainshaft but also rob the engine of a fair deal of power, so nip it up but leave some slack just as you would with a drive chain. the good news is that i think we have sourced a decent supply of delron rod that the thing is made from and i'll have them and one or two other bits and bobs on the site fairly quickly. Alos on the plus side the pooter has been upgraded and POV video will be available of the majority of trials i'll be doing this year starting i think on April 9th. Other supplies and retailers are of course available etc etc

length wise no problem i had to loosen the handlebars and fold them flat to get it in the back .. far from ideal for regular transport

i dont think anyone has ever claimed the mk1 was pre 65 they are though a specifically allowed item as are michelin tyres and lycra riding pants..

anyone seen a set of these yet? fantastic trial super weather decent ( 80 plus) entry

well it aint no rocket science but if i were the ediburg clubs machine examiner i'd take a leaf out of my local post offices book they have a simple thing that decides how much you have to pay for a stamp. all you'd need for the pre 65 is a piece of stick 32 inches long and apiece of steel with a 35mm sq slot cut in it.. i cant honestly see anyone having chickens in thier wellies over it though..

ilkley is firmly in west yorkshire but the northern reaches of the valley and the site of the trial are in north yorkshire. As for the trial another cracking edition , the land was dry in the most part just the becks and bogs carrying a bit of water. Any visit form 'officialdom' would have seen very limited 'damage' to the flora and fauna and certainly zero permannet effects. in fact after 85 years of much the same route very little eveidence of the passing of the trial is visible. Ilkley club is to be congratulated for another excellently organised event, even down to marshals manning footpath crossings on the moors.

usually not until the thing has started.. reserve entries finally get handed out as late as the start line in past years.

cant imagine why the ACU dont insist that all trials bikes have an acu issued logbook no stolen bike then could ever be ridden in a competition

faced with the same problem but even more extreme ( bike with no docs number plate whatso ever) all i had was a spare parts list from 20 years previously, with an address and a registration number. i just asked dvla for the v5 and it came in the post a week later job done..

this has been one of the most constructive threads in quite sometime starting with a negative and yet ending in much fact been made publicly available.. good effort one and all, fascinating stuff.

thats ideal thanks very much.. it'll be in use tomorrow as a trial.. cheers Mark.

getting the bike ready for the first road trial of the season nad i'm re fitting my hebo tank between the yolks. Its been at the back of the garage for a couple of years and i cant remember which pipes go where so that the main tank is automatically refilled.. any ideas?

running costs for a van.. trafic 04 plate. mpg 39.1 at the mo though i am on stealth mode trying to get even more. tax 170 insurance 320 for a nearly 50 fat bloke with a zillion years no claims seats 3.. spot on until you get to the repair bills.... oh cost me 8k 5 years ago inc vat

it seems to have gone very quiet ....

I think that is more than a couple of hundred years ago Calais became part of France and English became the predominant spoken language in England in the mid to late 1500's certainly there were minor squabbles until the little fellow got presumptuous and me lord Wellesley had to shirt front him in 1815 as for the those cheeky scallywags north of the wall the english let them have the best of it until 1707 when having tasted independence they bankrupted themselves and came wanting to be friends.. Do not forget the cheeky chaps across the sea that are getting all 'be jesused' today over ST Patrick

and from 2012 you'll have to by law insure any bike that is not sorn

whats the definition of British? isnt that a little vague? british made british parts british sourced british assembled british sold what is the precise defintion of british as a location and at what point in history? GB? Uk? british colony british ruled british speaking diputed british soveriegn territory dominions, colonies, protectorates, mandates, and other territories ruled ? too many variables i'm afriad..

once you ve got used to it cut the strpping so they are closer to the correct length, loading and unloading will be sooo much easier and quicker

i dont think i have ever ridden in a trial decided by oldest bike? do any clubs use this format?

did you see how much thatclarke stuff is... dig deep..

Although the memories of some may fade over the years, it seems some do quicker than others. Post no.9 in this thread seems fairly clear. I'd rely on contemporary reporting of the day and from that it seems clear that bikes built by hipkin badged as sprites were been sold all be it on a limited basis in 64 and on a mass produced basis in 65. i can therefore accept the eligibility for the pre 65 Sottish as have presumabley the organisers.Equally the acceptance of the bike in 'pre 65 trials' where most clubs run the two stroke class as pre 70. the issue though is rather bogus as the number of competing Sprites is very limited (

check out the yorks classic website.. classifieds section http://www.yorksclassictrials.co.uk/#/classified-adverts/4543674651 and give Bill Beveridge a call he makes just about anything and if he cant will no doubt know someone who can.

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