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the mtb analogy is a good one. to ride competatively in each would be about the same. push bike circa 3k trials bike 4.5 the trials bike will be as competative 3 years later if maintained, a push bike lasts a season of racing personal eqpt costs clothing footwear are comparable and parts wise cost of consumables and add ons do not differ widely. where the real difference lies and i've been there worn both jerseys is time commitment. regional std riders of push bikes will train 5 days a week minimum 3 hours a day plus gym etc and have a fairly strict diet. i dont suppose our regional trials experts do that mush on bike..

as well as the clutch arm hunt through the parts bins to find a lever with the most throw. and if poss a lever that has an adjustable position so you can set it just on biting point and is a comfortable reach for your finger.

what do you want to do with your time... if you want to spend two or three evenings a week in the garage tinkering and the rest of the week on the phone hunting for bits and riding the easy route on a sunday or do you want to ride, wash the thing put it away with a liberal coat of wd40 and pull it out next sunday morning to ride the easy route.. the head says modern the heart says a proper bike. ( fantic 200)

How much! i did complete package in 1990ish 4 days training tests hire bike 125 all in..

welcome here http://www.yorksclassictrials.co.uk/#/rules/4543226075 and here http://www.redroseclassictrials.org.uk/regulations.html and hee http://www.poacherspre65trials.co.uk/club_rules.htm so thats at least 64 trials a year you could enter in.

http://www.yorksclassictrials.co.uk/#/classified-adverts/4543674651 then of course theres the guru of outlane and others working out of sheds/ lean to's/ workshops etc, come to trial and ask the riders where they got thier bits..

boots you'll need at least two pairs.. wet boots are NO fun, wear them A LOT before the trial they must be comfy. have a fresh pair od socks every day at least three pairs of riding jeans and a couple of riding jakcets ( you 'll be doing 50mph plus on the road and the weather could be anything from snow to 30 degrees C) gloves for the sections and gloves for the road. camelback is ideal get one with some carrying capacity for clothing. all the bike importers give good lists of what to wear carry see the scorpa gb and beta uk sites dependent on what bike you are riding the uk importers usually provide plenty of service space although you do have to do your own work on the bike although importers like beta will tell you what and how to do stuff as you do it. the time you have to do it comes from your time allowance to complete the route for the day so get back early and you have time to do some work get in late and you have no time you wont need an auxillary tank unless you are riding and evo and even then you should be ok. i assume your renting a bike? beta and gas gas usually have the biggest set ups others are available though. chack out as much video as you can to understand what gear people use etc etc and keep asking questions on here.. Dont forget your accomadation you need to get that sorted NOW. you want to be in fort william no more than a mile form the town center and preferably as close to the parc ferme at the west end carpark as possible.

to be fair John we are still recieving Christmas cards even down here in the bustling metropolis, credit card statements recieved after the payment date this week ( bank have agreed to waive interest thankfully) i dont know minislim to talk to but he and his father ride pre65 EVERY week and thus his frustration carries some weight and his view that week in week out riders dont enter because of a belief that your first three entries are a waste of postage, was certainly a view that i heard repeated at the largest pre65 trial last weekend. i hold firm in my belief that the edingburgh club can let ride who they want but how positive for the trial and the sport would it be if the 'draw' were to be made as open as possible.

well it seems that jeroni has tailoring issues this weekend, what is the 'issue' responsible for the failure to appear at the next world round? not even the king of spin campbell could come up with such weak excuses. simply put the bike is a project beset by smoke and mirrors. hark back to the end of last season when 'the factory' would nt let andy et al take photos of it. i very much regret that the ossa is no more likely to appear at a dealer near you than a greeves. if i were mr birkett of cumbria i'd be down there kicking there back door down.

having watched every broadcast thus far all i can say is.. it aint the same, the roads are wide and smooth, spectators on corners etc it looks more like wrc.

DO NOT BUY A VIVARO OR ANY OF ITS RENAULT OR NISSAN COUSINS.... electrics ( warning lights, rev counter indicator stalk headlight stalk) diesel pump steering pump rear wheel bearings inc discs all gone in an 04 with 62k on the clock in the last 4 years total bill circa 2k to press spent so much on it cant afford to let it go.. they are NOT vans fro driving round town ) we use it for day to day plumbing work) great on motorways and long journeys.. great for hauling the bike.. just for hauling the bike get a partner or a caddy

best thing to do is ring up the secretary of the trial and say ' exuse me i wnat to do my first trial at yours on 16th january can you help me out... then when you get there they will remember you and help you through.. they'll ask you to join the club abd apply for a licence and pay the trail entry fee.. probably cost you less than 35 quid all in..

Earlier in the thread, I picked up a reference to the goodwood festival of speed and an inference that all was milk and honey in the word of classic cars… if you want a can of worms there it is. i used to trial and race vintage (pre war) cars it reached the stage where the clubs issued eligibility certificates for cars however I have fitted alternators to cars that were made 20 years before the first alternator, fitted hydraulic brakes to cars that previously only had cable brakes on one axle, fitted one off cranks to cars, fitted specially cast in 1991 heads to cars that were built in 1927 so please don’t hold up shiny cars of an example of what good should look like. Like many, I would aspire to do the pre 65 Scottish although having seen riders that i can compete on equal terms with struggle last year i accept that participating is beyond me. I will though DEFINITELY be there again this year to spectate (if i can afford the diesel, which went up to 133.9 at my local garage this am) I travel to see the countries best riders compete in the best trial, to see the best examples of developed bikes and the best examples of genuine preserved bikes from that era. Who wins is of no consequence as long as bikes are ridden as i would like to think i ride, enthusiastically and sportsmanlike. May the best man win but the last man enjoy himself…

pre 65 bikes with tubeless rims> it'll never happen.

as is the organisers perogative they select the entry some call it a ballot some do not. at the end of the day its the organisers event and they can accept who they want without explanation. i suspect though that if a legal challenge were to be made all sorts of issues could be raised so in the interest of clarity and to prevent such challenges ( for they will come eventually, as people are sueing for been denied hotel rooms and poor teachers whilst at school) then a defined format should be declared.

be boring .. it'll pay dividends in the long run. ride what everybody else does, they do it because the stuffs reliable parts are easily obtained, all thier mates know how to fix em so go to trials see what everyone rides scan the results on here and TMX. two brands will stand out.. one capacity.. one type of engine as for starting at 50 check out the gallery and tell me how many are under 50.. ( we've an 80 year old that rides every weekend!) and as for pushing the scales to the max.. pah all the better for getting through the mud to the grip and for crushing those pesky rocks..

i've had my car for three years its done 48k and IT has only asked for its engine oil to be changed once. in the service manual gearbox oil isnt even mentioned other than viscosity and volume i suspect that a modern oil will last several hundred hours never mind the 8 to 10 that people are suggesting. the real culprit today is the ethanol in your fuel. DONT leave fuel in your carn when you put the bike away, drain all the fuel from the tank if standing for a month or so ( it corrodes alloy) and if you have a fibrglass tank change it now..

you ll probably find that most insurance will cover you third party as a minimum if you have no mot the bike must though be ' road worthy'

dvla certainly do use the vin. i got a demand to clarify the vin no. of my van after its mot as it differed from the one they had on record. i told them what it was and they sent me out a new v5

seat and tank off and thread it through from the rear the front mount to the engine is the tricky bit dont fasten exhaust to frame until it is on at the exhaust cylinder head..

i dont think that the acu have union flag as a trade mark so its up for grabs.. and if 1964 is to celebrate mr mqueens celebration .. why the union flag ? mcqueen certainly wore an international suit for the 64 isdt as did the great majority of riders SM visited england and bought the suit before the trial. his suit certainly bore the stars and stripes and a lapel badge with his bike no. 278.

i once over heard a resident of Silsden telling a prospective purchaser..'' my bike gets ridden over rocks not into them..'' and on reflection theres a lot of truth in that

i have an old MOD international suit and its chipper for when its pouring down the trousers are cosy as toast.. cost me 30 quid plus a tenner for a new jkt belt i've worn it on trials car trials trail riding and out in the field .. proper stuff does the job.. keeps you dry ( ish) and warm and now apparently worth abob or two.. what more could a yorkshireman want..

loved the pages of lists of results from the world championships.. who reads that stuff.. used to have a christmas test and stuff like that.. sadly a fading icon

also cancelled is the yorkshire classic charity trial at Manor farm glusburn twixt skipton/ keighley, on the positive side it gives OTF chance to fit his gaitors..