jonnyc21

Here is my 2 cents for what its worth. Yes the Throttle is a slow (black) - I changed mine to a white and it was very noticeable how much quicker it is now. You can adjust the clutch lever to your preference for the point the clutch bites with the adjustment screws. I have known a few people even lightly file/grind the pin to get it even closer to the bars in some cases. (Same on the brake lever side for adjustment) Friction plates or just the dimpled plates? I think you will get the most progressive clutch feel if you do both, however the larger portion of the change is just the dimpled plates. If do go just the plates I would stick with the higher quality oils for best results. PS. If your not sure on what oil you want to use its best to two changes between the different oils for the best results between the different types (if you want changing it early to figure it out faster I would go at least a couple hours of riding on the first change before going to the second) Hope this helps.

Not sure what is available in your area but I have had really good luck with engine ice. Fan on my 07 4RT and my 17 300 RR both come on less now. No affiliation, just a happy customer. Example: https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/cycle-logic-engine-ice-p

The only things I have ever seen do this kind of thing in any fuel/petrol tank would be the fuel sitting in the tank tell it evaporates out leaving a mess, water in the fuel, or cheep additives. Not sure what else would do that. Good luck figuring out what it might have been.

At your size I would also recommend a 250 as a good starting bike for size with what your talking about. If your fine with a 2T bike you will have a little better time finding used but if you really want a 4T bike then Montesa or Beta are the only option with most of the Beta 4T's being 300's but they would be fine for you I am sure. I would also agree that taller bars are a better way to go if you don't like stock bar height but would suggest doing what you can to bring them only up as much as needed. If you go to high on the bars it will mess with the lever point and make it harder to ride the bike the way they are deigned to be ridden. There is a sweat spot that is really important to hit if you want the bike to perform correctly when learning to ride over larger stuff. Last and most important, even if your not intending to do competition trials I would highly recommend getting in touch with your nearest club and going for a few rides with them a few times so you can get some basic exposure to pure trials riding as they can help you wtih initial bike setup and other basics that will make your over all experience that much better. Good luck!

Ya my 07 4RT has a 2.0L tank so that extra .4 looks like it helps out a bit, and I forgot about gearing I was up 3 in the rear at the time so between the tank size and gearing that would make sense. Hope the contact tank works out well for you and I would expect that 11/39 to work out well for the kind of riding your doing with it for sure. Hope it keeps being fun.

I wonder how close that was to my 4RT trip, I want to say I was getting close to around 6-7 mph on average once you factor in the really slow/technical sections. I wonder if your 300 has a larger tank to get that range or maybe I was in lower gears more than I thought? Sounds like a fun ride!

I have a hard time riding anything by my trials bikes now as well even on trails because of the difference in feel and fun factor with how I ride. Glad you had fun and it worked out good for you!

Took a few trail rides on my 07 Montesa 4RT 250 and the best I ever got for miles was about 24.5 miles before having to use my fuel bottle (I did 27.8 miles total that day, sorry didn't check how much more fuel I used after adding the 1.5L bottle to the tank) I was in 4th most of the time and was able to ride in 5th somewhat often to get that and was almost never below 3rd. I doubt I would get that on my 2017 Montesa 300 RR and I would highly doubt I could on any 250-300 2T as even my daughters 08 Gas Gas 125 always needed fuel before my 4RT did on our family trail rides on the trials bikes. Hope that helps.

Glad you figured out how to get it setup and got a chance to give it a go. Thank for sharing.

I thought Mots had some decently matching Green to the Vertigo, but when I check I don't see much in green so maybe they sold out with current supply issues? I thought there was one other at least but checking I don't see much so not sure.

Not going to say a thumb throttle will not provide the extra control or not as I wouldn't know having never tried one on a trials bike, but I sure wouldn't expect it to. When I think of the kind of moves your talking about trying to use the thumb throttle to help with I have to consider the trials training sessions I have attended... At them I was taught to use the clutch to manage the landing of bigger moves like you indicated. Really not trying to be a nay-Sayer and hop it works for you if you do try... Good luck, and I am interested in hearing how it goes if you do end up giving it a try.

Could get a set built for trials bikes... https://jbanyeres.com/en/chassis/2601-bolsas-sobre-deposito-universales-para-moto-de-trial.html?search_query=bags&results=1

I seem to be able to put what I need in my camelbak... good luck.

Your last picture in that second post sure looks like what linaway is saying. The levers look low and if that is the case it would defiantly cause throttle issues (whiskey throttle or other throttle control issues) to happen. It seems counter to bring them up and can feel strange when you first do it but its well worth it and will/can make trials riding so much better. Good luck.

I am always cautious when going past 60-70 to get a tire on. If a good amount of quality tire lube and heating the tire up in the sun first isn't doing the trick I use an air chuck with a clip and then set the tire around a corner and then turn up the regulator tell it sets the bead or hits 100 and stop. I have only ever had to go up to 100 but have heard some go up to 110 to get one to set. Also, once I started using a high quality tire lube I haven't yet had to go past 80... so far anyway. Air chuck examples: (mine is like the second one but not the same brand) https://www.amazon.com/RamPro-Compressor-Connector-Accessories-Inflator/dp/B07N9773DN/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=air+compressor+inflator+with+clip&qid=1633192137&sr=8-8 or https://www.amazon.com/AstroAI-Inflator-Compressor-Accessories-Yellow/dp/B078WVQTN6/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=air+compressor+inflator+with+clip&qid=1633192137&sr=8-3

I grease both at the same time... just keeps me from wondering condition...

I agree with jimmyl that its easier to just pull it all the way out to grease it up or replace parts and is my preference. I have been able to pull it by putting my bike on a stand, pulling the rear wheel, and then removing everything. It takes a bit of work to do so without loosening anything up or remove anything as there are a few things that get in the way a bit, but more than possible without doing so. Good luck this weekend.

New post in their news section today... https://www.montesa.com/en/actualidad/2022-montesa-motorcycle-line-up/

I am taking a guessing here, but are you talking something like this? https://www.hardlineproducts.com/product/hourtach-meter/ (PS. I have no affiliation with this company, just like the meter and mount as I use them myself) If so then I would say also add this. https://www.hardlineproducts.com/product/hour-meter-instrument-style-mount/ You will need a slightly longer bolt for the tank/mount but that isn't to hard to find and install instructions are easy to follow as it really is just a matter of wrapping a wire around the spark plug lead and setting the tach/hour meter to the correct setting for 4t engines.

I would tend to agree with Johnny Reggie, the last time I was getting with a stall and a pop I turned up my tickover and it fixed it strait away and the only other thing I have ever done that gets a pop and then stall is me at the end of the day when my finger is getting tired and I am being port with my clutch control and stall it. Not sure mcman56's comment would apply 100% as the Montesa 260 as its EFI where the Beta 4t runs a carb and has a lower tickover speed...

Try checking this thread out maybe?

I suspect its a combination of the state of everything mixed with the fact that its riding season in a lot of places so the people that are posting a lot normally are out riding more... at least that is my hope. (shrug)

If it was me at 7 I would consider the E-Bikes, and would say an OSET would be a good option as they have several size options depending on the kid. If your interested in gas bike I really like the Beta 80's but they are a full clutch so that might not work for 7 depending on the kid. If that is what your after then the Beta Rev 80 Jr might be small enough. Anything smaller than a Beta 80 Jr for Gas bike and they don't seem to bring them into the US so can't say much to it and I don't know to any other options but the Gas Gas Boy (50cc?) that has an auto clutch but I don't know if they still make them. Good luck.

I have an 07 and a 2017 so here is what I have found. It is not hard to make a 2014-2018 (I think also the 2019?) fender to fit an 07 but you would be able to tell it was modified near the tank. However the 2020+ fenders are different again and from what I can see in the pictures not nearly as easy to work with from what I see. As for difference the end of the fender is enough smaller on the 2014-2018's that I really prefer the original 07 fender on my 07 over the new type when riding in mud or wet conditions. Hope that helps.

Would love a Repsol look 301RR... now you got me dreaming.