steve fracy

By such a ridiculous statement you completly invalidate any miniscule measure of sense or reason in your view. There is no mandate. There are only emissions laws. They did not hire the best. Raga is the best. They hired #5. Not sure what the hell your talking about mate! Only thing that has a minscule measure of sense to me is for a company to sink tons of $$$ into developing a machine that by and large, is still only capturing a very small piece of the overall pie. By and large, 2stroke machines are still more popular and in higher demand. We were told a few years ago by the FIM that 4strokes would be phased in as the only bike allowed to compete in international events. At the time I beleive questions were asked if it was a simple emissions limit, and no clear answers were given. The original date of implementation of this rule was changed at least twice that I know of. HRC/Honda have put the squeeze on the other small factories because they do not have the R&D bucks. I take my hat off to Sherco for throwing their hat into the ring, even with the fact that they had some problems with the 4T with starting it is a good bike and out of the box has more power that the Mont. Either way personally I don't care too much 4 or 2stroke, but I can't see it good for the sport forcing the small guys to HAVE to build a 4stroke only.(Obviously this has been backed off). Buying a championship rediculous??? Arguably, if Fuji and Doug did not have to develop the works Mont's as they went along, Raga might not have won his world titles. Bou is clearly the brightest new star on the world circuit right now, and I'm sure that no one else could have matched the offer he got from HRC. So what was so rediculous about any of that? STeve

Hey Powellriver315, have you tried contacting your local Beta dealer which is right in your back yard?? mark grey?

I agree with one point that the factory Mont's whether they be the 315's or the 4RT's are nothing like the stock bike either in weight or power! For me, I guess the only thing I question is Honda's mandate. I don't like the fact that it seems like(from an uninformed view) that they have been putting pressure on the FIM to enforce a 4stroke only rule.What is the actual point of view of the FIM. Is it a emissions concern? If so it should be open season, 2stroke or 4stroke, you must adhere to the level of emissions. Honda is the biggest motorcycle company in the world, and if they can force all the small factories of trials bikes into having to produce 4strokes, I think that is bad for the sport. If they simply want to produce a modern 4stroke and show us how good they can make it, I say hat's off to them! It doesn't really matter to me personally. I do prefer the 2stroke for performance and ease of maintenance. But I am not opposed to riding a 4stroke in the future. As soon as they can build one that in my mind is better than a 2stroke, I would get one! As for Bou, he has to do what is best for him! Probably not the best for Beta or the sport, but quite obviously the best for him. Mont/Honda has quickly become the New York Yankee's of the Trials world. They can go out each an every year and purchase the services of the best available talent in order to win a championship! Good luck in the long run! Cheers, steve

Go to a 38 pilot and a 112main and she'll run right as rain! Make sure to check your exhaust and especially the middle section as this can drastically alter performance.

Ish: On behalf of both your mates Perce and Kinell, I would have to say that Yes, you are a pillock! Can't resist when you serve it up like that. Cheers, Steve

That makes three of us then guys, just figured maybe Andy modified the site to smarten up those of us who are "keyboard challenged".

Well fellas, looks like everything is panned out and it's a done deal! Should have it home in a few weeks!! Cheers, Steve

Cheers for that Gaz My point is that I would probably feel the same if I came over to ride with you too! I have literally ridden in almost every place in North America,( besides the TTC, this year!) and have to say that although there are subtle differences in the personalities, trials people on the whole are a constant in the formula!

Please be so kind and peacefull to point out where I was being rude??? What is "Canadian Mentality"? It almost seemed like a slight on my country and Canadian's, sorry but I take offense to that everytime.

How about motorcycle gymnastics?

Nice! But I was expecting to see some bloke bashing his way through a quarry in Wales somewhere! steve

With statements like "the Canadian mentality" I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms anywhere you go! Not sure what the hell that is supposed to mean! You make your own happy place, and friends where ever you are. We live in one of the greatest countries in the world bar none! Sure hope you find what you're looking for, though I doubt a "fun trials club" is really it. I have belonged to many clubs over the years, here and south of the border, and always had fun! Steve

A committment to your child that we all aspire to think we could acheive. Very inspirational!!

Barry: Looking forward to some good pics from my mate taff who is to meet up with you guys today!! have fun!

Jean Pierr Goy, former trick rider for Fantic, and Phillipe Berlatier from France during a test probably for the mag Moto Verte. Notice the Italjet gear, not his usual bike, the fantic.

Name the two rider's in the pics above ?

Could be wrong, but doesn't KTM have ties with Beta?? Some of their smaller bikes have KTM engines in them!

Don't always go by what you read or people tell you, as much as personal observations. I personally have seen many a Mont frame being welded. All the new bikes are good. I don't believe one brand is superior than the other as far as reliability is concerned. They all require routine maintenance, or, any one of them will have problems.

YET!

me thinks you are out of touch a bit!! Selling your Fantic 240(too much power) buying a TL250 (trying to make it lighter) and now the Mont 315 is the most durable. Have you owned one? Have you owned any other modern(post 2000) bike???We all appreciate good feedback from people who have had first hand experiences with bikes, but I don't think that is the case here! Mostly ALL the modern bikes are GOOD, it is just personal preference! Steve

Gabino Renales and JJCobas

No Eric, I believe the thread was for REAL rider's, so Ringo won't be able to qualify. Mick has to be an old favorite. Shared a beer together with him, myself, Outlaw Dave and my Dad in Fort william at the 92 Scottish! Great guy!! Domestically it has to be Geoff Aaron! What about that Japanese rider Nozaki???

I was just looking at the classifieds and saw the pic of that nice 175 Scorpa 4stroke and it got me to thinking that if Scorpa/Yam could get together and produce that little bike at a reduced price, it would be the perfect entry level bike to attract new riders. Kinda the modern day TL125. Capable of riding right up to expert level if need be, but simple, practical and a straight forward little bike! Is anyone listening?? Might help a healthy influx of new rider's!! Steve

Is that Steve's actual bike or a loaner??? Hey Heath is that Michaud in one of the pics on your site? Why was he not competing??? Loved those Rothmans Hondas