nigel dabster

If fi can work at very very low rpm just as a 2 stroke takes its last gasp then every make would have fi. It doesnt. They dont. Plus you need power for it to work and there are pages and pages on here about that. So in balance fi is good, but its not perfect yet. Carbs are good too.

They didnt sell enough bikes, steve tried really hard and gave it his best shot. If the bikes are that good more would have bought? Choice is too great at the moment? Would you take them over?

I can tell you. They didnt sell enough bikes.

what is the licence fee per year? and what insurance is covered by the 5/7 euro? Does the Dutch acu have a benevolent fund an accident payout covered when competing and legal cover? Are all the events off road in designated areas or on land owned by several people?

http://www.todotrial.com/en/news/item/4336-jotagas-declarada-en-concurso-de-acreedores.html?utm_content=buffere9873&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer#.Vs6W5NBNmUk

same size as gearne, break in quicker, system works well

By clouding the issue and talking about miners or this and that is simply avoiding admitting youre not accurate or objective. (student loans are only re paid when they earn over 21k and thats only 37 a month at 26k so thats innacurate and probably not stopping anyone entering a trial) IT IS great value and considering all the unpaid hours volunteers put in as Breagh says above almost insulting to suggest in anyway as anything other. We all know times have changed and to repeat whats stated above health and saftey insurance land etc are all greater costs relative. Lastly and to finish, if there is one iota of truth in anything you say about this, if trials is pricing itself out of "the market" what similar activity is cheaper?

Not trying to disprove anything just trying to make you see just possibly maybe even a shadow of doubt that you could be ever so slightly not even 100% correct? Besides how can you disprove a flaky generality with no specifics?

This is where you get silly. Just because you say that at some point YOU were a welder and got x at some vague time and at that time exactly the entry fees were x/2 doesnt make it a) a fact or particularily relevent. Its 2016 and times have changed, nothing costs "the same" name us one sport or pastime that is exactly in proportion? Footbal compare that one, and as for autograss whats that got to do with trials????? You may have a slightly valid point that its gone up but to compare it to one single trade at a particular point in time in a particular area of the north of england doesnt give any kind of accuracy or objectivity, just a finger in the air, surely even you can see that. Mix in all the other factors like many clubs pay for land, insurance, health and saftey, sending officials to c o c training in rugby etc, i could go on but just accept that trials is very very good value compared to anything,except of course dad of 2 wages, back then.

not round our way spen, its the only way sometimes. Our local club with much effort by a dedicated 1 or 2 came to fruition a few years ago http://www.miltonbuzzard.com/miltonbuzzardmountfarm.html It was a flattish piece of land before we had the bulldozer in and then 100tons of rock to date about.

where are you swampy?

Pay £10 on here you tightwad, at least that insult didnt cost me £40

http://www.jobsite.co.uk/job/mig-fcaw-welders-955257506?utm_campaign=Indeed_Jobsite&utm_source=indeed&utm_medium=aggregator&sctr=EN&tmpl=lin&tid=752169&utm_content=&cid=msearche_indeed___A £18 per hour Gates head £14 https://www.adzuna.co.uk/jobs/details/352232435?v=71BDA1A7326C453E4B05A4BB26954B663CB5B752&se=yOCzC7V6Qz-rR5UCbZ9kQA

You wouldnt get insults if you werent so innacurate and such an ar$e. If you can get me a welder for £8 an hour i'll have two. My romanian labourers get that.

acu is front spindle front spindle not front and back.

315's have a habit of squashing the fuel pipe (well we can squash it!) so check for fuel after spark.

Im not making anything up as i go along, the point was that the impression was the original statement/comment was the manufacturers actually make cast and machine or machine from billet the parts that make up the bike. I dont think thats the case, I thought they all bought in parts from outside, whether it be japan or italy or local? Why do i get the impression im being interviewed by the police? Anything i say can be taken down in evidence? I said i wasnt sure, are you saying 4rt motors are made, manufactured as in cast and machined and so on?

where are the parts made spain or japan?

Whatever its virtues or otherwise, we need an independent view soon.....

Montesa make the least? Dont Honda make the engines in Japan? Ditto showa shocks, although it might be Tech forks now, wheels and brakes bought in from local Spanish sub contractors, frames in italy etc etc? Not sure but just from memory.....

Also biff reading between the lines im not sure you even understand what production of trials bikes is like in Catalunya. AFAIK all makes just assemble they dont manufacture much at all, which is why the sherco small batch model has worked so well for so many years. Looks like trs are following suit, so yes in their model it is easy to spit out 80 in a batch, just not 80 a day.

Aston Martin works is about 5 miles from the berko trial. http://www.astonmartinworks.com/

My bikes best .......

Ok so you dont know what its like to be in Spain and how the people are face to face. 80 a day is not "impossible" to do either here there or even in the usa,but from many angles it is, not least commercially, but many more reasons which i could explain but whats the point? The fact that 2850 trucks are made is of no relevence to the world wide trials market, either in numbers or demand so not sure what youre saying?

Thats the complete opposite of the first .gov.uk so yes bring it in!