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  1. there is a 1967 programme on dave riely programe website (pdf), which has the rules for marks lost on p14
  2. It's a "small" side affect of the newish (last 4-6 weeks) functionallity that has been added, where organisers can now allocate your riding number (normally essential in most trials), don't panic if you (a rider) get this error message.
  3. it's a long slog many of us are working on, there is more help from the ACU HQ. some clubs still need help with raising permits / setting up events with the platform, if done well it does make it easier, there are still many making errors that make it hard to enter. i think by most accounts the club membership side of thing seams to be working. on the other side of the equation the riders are still struggling, and they too need help. if the rider hasn't got their club membership, licence, medical, etc then they stuggle to enter. the challenge is how to help these riders, often require other riders, club officlas to help them through the process, which obviosuly requires them to au fait with it all. there have been several clubs that have got on well with it, but there are many that are nervous / put off, and by your account is that too with riders? especailly the infrequent / casual rider - that is something i'm finding very hard to tell from the events i've ridden/ run, with other theorising te econmic climate and/or the recent bad weather as a reason... the ACU HQ tells us more delopments are coming, quiete what that functionality is / etc we await to see
  4. i have this on file from when i has a 1999, hope it helps 1999_beta_techno_250_wiring_diagram.pdf
  5. as above, possible two different questions between LDTs (90-100 miles ish) or a "modern" trial with road work what we do is make sure we've got some sort of emerency tow rope (i got hold of some lifting strops), if you are going around with a crew, diffrent team members can take diffrent stuff (first aid, navigation, towing, punctures, etc) i've got a garmin for LDTs (and a route book holder) and you always see people struggling with paper route books stuff in a jacket pocket. If it involves navigation, lack of a speedo / odometer will be an issue, but if you can latch on to some others navigating...
  6. it didn't allow the rider too, but the club could
  7. in the old system you could create a "template" of how your event classes/licences structured, this one is meant to. we've done one very early event with it, and have several more coming up (each different styles), so haven't yet had the a repeat event to test this on. there is also a lot of "upgrades" / usability stuff happening, Gary Thompson (at ACU HQ) is sending updates out now (there is a weekly email) that should be going to each club (definitely each centre). i strongly suspect some of the issues we had with our first event (a big centre trial going live 24 hours after the system launched) has been superseded by various people's hacks/system improvements, etc the ACU HQ say the email/help desk backlog is cleared, so if you haven't got an answer from an old question please ask again, as i understand it if you do ask through the helpdesk system they can keep track/help you better than email i think it’s clear to everyone the adoption / beta testing / rollout / user documentation / etc of this project has not gone the way anyone would have hoped, it's a ****up. we can't go back in time and un-****it up. from what i can gather everyone at the ACU (Board of directors, sport committees, all the staff, etc) know this has been a real issue (its the thing that preoccupied everyone for the last 3+ months), i can only praise those clubs, volunteers, etc that have perceived and made it work, helped the others and please, anyone out there that needs help, is struggling please ask. trapezeartist - what clubs want is an online entry system, as i understand the AMCA don't offer that, but others have either built their own or gone to a private company
  8. i think there is a box for riders to "edit" their entry up to a point where you want it fixed, i've seen rider use it to change class. not sure if rider can use it to withdraw
  9. i'm sure i've seen the tenaci wong trials bike with an e start, one my my trail riding mates had put the S3 electric starter on hir 4ride (ie a 4rt), there is at least one trs elecctric start locally. i'm on my third beta trials bike (since about 2003) but everything else is a right kickstart (although my recent enduro bikes have all had the button)
  10. rabie

    TY80

    Paul Collins builds adult sidecars, up in East Anglia,, he'ld be worth a shout i'm afraid i (we) sold my ty-80 many years ago, although i did see it on display at the VMCC's IWKR a few years ago
  11. Andrew - there are loads of events where you can start off having fun on your twinshock at say a club level. Depending upon where in the UK you are there will be recomendation of when / where to ride. Thames MCC hold a big (Mike Kemp Trial) over christmas at the same venue as the Talmag (Hungry Hill).
  12. Chris - as far as i know, there has never been (in UK, probably worldwide) competitor to competitor liabilty insurnace. as i understand it, the "law" / courts / etc find / have concluded that this is the inhernet risk of taking part in sport. ie another rider could crash into you during a race. how this applies to trials where (mostly) its one riders in an empty section at a time, is more of a mute point as this risk is much lower (compared to the racing scenario in all other motorcycle sport). hypothetically one could postulate scenarios where you might be in the queue for a section and you get "hit" by an errant bike. people having been racing motorclyces (and cars) for 120 odd years, horses and bicycles for longer.i don't *think* this is an area of risk to be worried about.
  13. sorry been busy to a throw out there a in depth response (we’ve just organised our biggest trial of the year) the insurance for events is broken down into many areas I’m not the by any means the expert on this but here goes; if you still have a paper (or PDF) ACU handbook, you'll find a chapter on insurance (that says something like this) what is covered; public liability / third party liability - the risk of a rider hurting/damaging other people (spectators, walkers, etc). this is the main one that everyone must have, most landowner do (should) insist on seeing this. some of the "other" federations out there offer this at a lower level than the ACU does at £40 million (but some people are happy running at this lower level). personal accident (officials) - this is if an official get hurt during the course of their duties, during the event but all set up and take down. this does include some "loss of earnings" (under the ACU). personal accident (riders) - for trials (by and large not mx, enduro, etc) there is a limited amount of cover, like for death, loss of limbs, a month in hospital. it is thus strongly recommended that riders (who don't get sick pay from work) might want to procure personal accident cover. CICA used to be big in this, it’s now done by other providers. road traffic act - most (but not all) road insurance polices (that you have to have to ride on the road) have a clause that says the policy doesn’t cover you if you are taking part in an event (or pizza delivery). the ACU now (5+ years) offers RTA "top up" for riders that already have road insurance on their bikes (for events with road work) - there are some exemptions for stuff like riders with lots of points. landowners - the ACU superficially offer an add on, where the organiser can name the landowner(s) and specifically extend cover to the landowner for a) damage to their property and b) cover from lawsuit arising from the event that rope them in. medical malpractice - there is a policy to cover anyone giving first aid from medical malpractice claims what isn't covered; competitor to competitor - i'm unaware of anyone, anywhere offering you cover for another competitor hitting / damaging you/your bike (or a borrowed bike) during a competition vehicles - no cover for use diggers, tractors, cars, etc as part of the event (my club has brought our own cover for our tractors/plant) other - no cover for aviation, firework displays, freestyle, etc - but if you want to do something novel / isn't listed please ask (eg a hillclimb) anyway so back to your first question on the day at an event (ACU), your riders may have entered online, where the system has checked them out. firstly, there is an onus on the organiser to check if the rider has been banned/suspended between the rider entering and before their event starts (eg night before), the old system would show them in a funny colour, i haven’t seen how it works in the new one. on the day instead of showing a plastic card like the old system, riders are *meant* to show the organiser their (new style) licence (it’s a QR code they were sent via email), and then you the organiser can scan it (with your phone) and that rider's licence (with photo) will pop up. my club did am event yesterday (140+ riders) and maybe a third were ready for this. the rest we had the "ID" the old-fashioned way (driving licence, etc). you the organiser have a "duty of care" to ensure the people riding are the people who have actually entered (bene insured). to your second question as a club that does a lots of mx, enduro and trials *and* owns it's own land, we feel very keenly the need for insurance. we've been sued several times and have had several "major" incidents - the backing of not just the ACU's insurance but its extensive array of layers, loss adjusters, Health and Safety people, etc really pays dividends when **** hits the fan. obviously, you try for it not to happen, we're not running the TT, but they do and they have a team that knows how to "handle" this sort of stuff. the chances of a small-scale trials club needing this are rather more remote but it's something everyone involved should think about. As I said at the top, I’m not the guy on this area, the ACU have people who can go into this in way more depth, if you want I can put you in touch with them
  14. from what i know of event promotion (i'ld like to think i know something) it does generally involce a large amount of cost to "cover" an event and then edit (be it for tv or internet), in terms of equipment, people, fast internet conections (i assume its easier in a stadium than an isolated rural location), etc. again in my humble opion while it would be very nice for it to be onsale or even nicer to be free to watch, i don't see whats in it for the orngaiser or someone else to pay to do that. congratulation to jitse for their work here, at the scott and SSDT, but i can't conceive of many other comerical organisation in our sport wanting to foot that kind of bill (red bull tv? maybe) versus little comercial gain (especailly to overseas markets where they can't really monterise your viewing)
  15. if you hire a stadium (big cost) and then pay the costs to put the event on, you really, really want to sell all the seats (i think it was a sell out). If you advertised free live stream, or even paid live stream, would you sell them seats? It costs real money to get a film crew in, and stream / broadcast it - and what intreast has the poor sod putting event on, got in spending that money?
  16. i've got the links to the videoif you need them, and i've seen a copy (i havne't got it on me) of the PDF documentation. We've set up two events, one is going well (and the riders all seam elligable) but was set up by one team from th e club whiel the other is showing waht you've got set up by someone else - we proably ticked some wrong tick boxes ?
  17. Staurt best advicse i can give is have you been sent the 4+ "how to" video's they've put up a) club affilaition to the acu b) set up stripe c) set up club membership d) how riders renew e) how a club set up events / raise a permit now there is a how varitey of issues around all these points, that can be minefield but that gives you a start last week's zoom was a bit chatoic but it gave us an idea where people where struggling, tonight zoom was overwhemled (100 limit on attendes) but it did a tour de force of the basic system. there is a prmoise of more video and written out user documentation.
  18. it's not a stuning roll out by us (the ACU) the old system worked but it was old and getting unsupported the new system hasn't been explained tot eh best extent to the the various club/centre offcials that have to roll it out to their club members, typically trials riders who want to ride 1/1/23 (we've got another 3-4 months for the mx/grass track and road racers to get near using it) in short we've moved from using your licence number as the "unique" identifyer to your email address, this now means parents can enter their children, etc but it has created some issues. the rider needs to *first* renew their club membership, but to do that their club needs to be ready to do this (by setting up a new "minisite" and registereing with a card provider) after first renewing their (the clubs) affliation with the ACU. *secondly* the rider can then then renew their licence (ther has for some time been seperate solo and sidecar trials licences). for a variety of reasons it seams very easy for a rider to press a button that is meant to mean they've paid the club cash, but they haven't yet done it, thus their licence is in some sort of limbo, letting them enter events, but at the same time they are going to be flagged inelligable for there has been some video guides and a lot of help by a handfull of staff at the ACU, but there are a lot of clubsout threre, with a lot of volunters having to relearn/reinvent the wheel (when for a lot it wasn't broken) at breakneck speed, to get ready for 1/1/23. there have been a few zoom traning seminars that have been heavily attended (overwhemled?) indicating that a lot of help is needed for many outhere. We've percervered and got something working, not sure its all there, but we've had to make it all work before we've even got the user documentation, which is painfull to say the least. I'm very concerend that some club are saying that they are cancelling events/etc because they can't make it work. i think in the medium term (a month or two) this will bed down and we'll get our head around it and some of the benifits of new funcationaly may pay off, i just feel we (as organsiers and riders) have got to get some events under our belt to findout how it works
  19. i'm not sure but i don't think there is anywhere, check out some local clubs and ask around - eg Waltham Chase
  20. developemnt wise trial tyres have "always" been imperial - ie 400x18 (or even 350x18 for very old bikes), but when Michelin launched the X-light they made it in a metric size when maxxis launched their "trial ish" tyre (with the first KTM Free rise, about 2014 ish) it has the same trials style pattern but the block spacing is wider and thus not trials rules compliant (depends upon how hot the organiser is) the issue that many will go into is how the diffrent brands perfom for the the terrain/weather the riders will encounter, ie IRC is very popular here in the wet south in the winter where we ride predominatly mud, while Dunlop with its stiff sidewalls is almost unsealable (due to its lack of performance in the winter) but does sell better up north as it performs well on rocks. I don't have sales data to hand but Michelin (with the X11 and the X-light) appear to dominate the market. if one is doing other things beyond closed course trials (ie roadwork, LDTs, enduros with tyre restrictions, etc) then Pirellli's MT43 and others (Vee Rubber, etc) become more usefull as they don't wear out so quickly.
  21. rabie

    Beta techno linkage

    i picked this PDF up off the net when i has a 1999 techno, you should be able to google somewhere the 1998 parts diagram, you can then drop the parts numbers into Beta UK's parts finder on their website (i assume some version of this is avialbe in other countries). anyway this PDF has been annotated with bearing numbers (not by me) 1999_beta_techno_250_and_270_parts_manual.pdf
  22. clearly we in our sport have a PR problem. results, reports, photos from events aren't getting out there. back in the day you saw extenisve, wide ranaging and in depth coverage in the press (blue un, green un, MCN, TMX, etc) in today's media landscape of high costs, lower circulation, etc its clearly a challange for the press to keep going (TMX stopped during lockdown, DBR is quarterly, etc) do we the fans/riders/clubs/promoters/etc have to step up and provide that coverage instead, i know many media outlets (this site included) are always looking for coverage of events and we (whoever) are keen to see those reports. i can't say i'm a great wordsmith, the thought of trying to write a report is really offputting, but many people are clearly there at events capturing the action as photos, video, etc so i can't be impossible
  23. i've myself (as an organiser) have not used the system but the adoption of it by these guys (Berko, British trials championship, kytc, etc) has got lots of our trials blubs thinking our (local trials club organisers) back of a fag packet plan would be 10 to 20 (the most sections we ever have) cheap android phones and back up battery thingies - we think the cpaital cost of this could be managable, worst ways we could construct some sort of levy system and borrow the money off the club or the ACU. the simple version dosen't require the observer to scan (like a punchcard) so would keep down the number of offcials required. I'm told the merge part is easy. the worry would be older observers who aren't very tech savy are ever going to struggle or be put off by this (hey it might even be they need thier reading glasses to use a phone), and volunter observers are what is so hard to come buy
  24. as above sometime in hte late 20's very early 30's. My club was founded in 1928 and we've got some very old trials results, see; https://sidcupmotorcycleclub.co.uk/trials/sidcup-sixty/ https://sidcupmotorcycleclub.co.uk/trials/dick-dickenson-trial/
  25. the guys at Berkhemstead MCC have built an app based system that at the simplest level lets the observer enter the riders number and score, at the end of the trial all the data is downloaded/merged into a result. the more complex version is used for the british solo mens trials championship with transponders/wristwatches on the rider and live scoring.
 
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