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Will it need a reflector and a bulb horn ??

Still easier to do with the bike on its side as the cable to the flywheel cover is not stressed. Bash plate off as well to avoid any problem with gasket. And put the the "new" oil in before refitting the cover - much quicker than pouring through that little hole if you don't.

std plates seem to work ok but regular de -glazing helps stop judder. If after market plates made the regular strip down obsolete then I can see the benefit -depending on the cost.

pictures and press release out and about for the 260 model.-basically the same but colors, bash plate tweak etc. Pictures on inty web of a 2018 300rr but basically the same with stickers and a new stand

Share the deal - much more interesting than wtc. bou is going to win and everybody will still be moaning stop allowed - no stop .yes he did - no hi didn’t . if busty to gg then Toby to mont may be best move of all??

I have the old serial port with usb adapter connector cable and 32 bit software. Maybe the latest is 64 bit software is different or has different map format.

Ok tried to talk to throttle body saturday. I used bike to prrogram a older twin map throttle body so knew all was working . The softawre went through its normal cycle when reading maps but at the end came up with an error - data of wrong type (or similar) this happens if trying to read twin map with single map software and vice versa. Tried a couple of times but no luck. If ptb is a non program one normally says can’t shift Ecu into transmission mode. This didn’t come up. So not sure if there is more modern software needed -I’m using 07 rtl program. Or the throttle body is not able to be changed. The “full power “ map #2 as standard is pretty awesome so not sure there is much I want to change anyways but would be good to know.

2000 rpm is just above tickovef as well. What’s max rpm/ volume

Have used Gaerne for a long time but over this period have become less and less durable and less and less protective and more and more expensive. I bought a pair of sidi boots last year and find them excellent quality, durability and very good suppport. Maybe not 100% waterproof but after a while npn are and I find skin pretty waterproof. With good socks even wet feet soon warm up- wet suit principal .

The yam probably had most centre experts on them at the time as they were that good. Anybody who swapped mounts got better . When your mates start beating you you follow suit. I always look at what local riders do when they change bikes - better - worse - no difference then make a decision . add in cost , reliability, colour , parts I already have etc

I think the correct analogy is maybe the ossa is/was the I phone. You think you wanted one and is going to change your world but in the end just lets you down, is unreliable and awkward to use and an I phone is even worse !! The 4rt is an old Nokia brick . Never been trendy or slim and sexy and doesn’t have a voice saying “ how can I help you” but if you want to go riding all day with minimum fuss or make a phone call it does what is says on the can. ( and it doesn’t do blooomin predictive text when you type on a motorbike part)

PS And have time to worry about what equipment I need to dry my boots

Having just got a 2017 300rr Montesa - don't care what it weighs as its awesome.. I could loose 2 stone but but cant be bothered. Just want to ride my well engineered reliable bike that will last me more than 12 months

Normandale are out and about. I think the rest imminent based on conversations we had in wsw centre meeting tues.

45125-NN4-610 HOSE, FR BRAKE 2005 part number in 2007 looks to have two parts numbers - road and competion? 4 45125-NN4-C11 HOSE, FR BRAKE (ED, 2E) 1 4 45125-NN4-C01 HOSE, FR BRAKE (3E) 1

I can confirm 16400 nn4 m71 is fitted yet to check if I can talk to it .

I think the late 315’s are the dam and up to 12 yr 4rt. I think all had same caliper and masters cyl. part number should be in the manual which if you haven’t got one can be found on line if you google some of the posts on the Montreal forum . presume you are looking for a cheaper alternative to a standard new one??

Just had a quick google but could not find -how much lighter are X light tyres

I left mine standard for a while but did find the front end lift to easily -especially on tougher sections plotted for modern bikes. If you were only riding classic trials probably not too much of an issue. Best way is to leave and see what you think -can be done after.

I parked both 4rt and tlr against the garage wall with wheels on and then measured the 4rt and set the tlr to the same - spindle to wall, top of forks to the wall. Cut bottom tubes and bottom of top tube and pulled in. I think I lost about an inch on wheel base so added to end of swingarm. Left shock mounts as they were so I guess increased wheel travel slightly as well. Steering went from moving a tiller to a modern feel and put less strain on my arms and shoulders.

"Last season, Montesa expanded its line up with a new trial model, the Montesa Cota 300RR, an exclusive race-oriented model designed to satisfy the brand’s most demanding fans. This season, the brand will introduce some changes that make the model even more competitive. New 2017 features:" "Furthermore, the throttle body – ECU isn’t actually a sealed system, so the rider will be able to adjust the ignition and injection maps simply by connecting it to a Laptop." From Honda press releases for the 2017 model published last year

Not tried it but believe so looking at literature - 2017 at least

went to observer at an easy trial run by my club today. Got a chance to play on some muddy banks and cambers at the end when sections had cut up the most. On a couple of section around trees cambers and climbs etc the bike riders like the 260 - a little more planted and stable but grips well when riding like a normal 4rt. The softer power at the bottom end helps with the slow stuff. One section which appears to have been one of the hardest had some deep mud and climbs and cambers and was well snotty when I got to it at the end of the trial. The 300 was fine on this going in 2nd and 3rd but also in 4th - previous 4rts have always struggled pulling 4th unless big climbs or very deep fast bogs. The RR can be ridden in 4th almost as easily as you can ride in 3rd. 4th can be ridden of the throttle from low speed and also hang off the back across the cambers having rolled the throttle off - not sure if this is the clutch, the torque of the motor , revised internal gearing but definitely something new for the 4rt tool box. In the mud I still favoured the full power map as I like to get the bike wound up and digging in for grip - some smoother riders may prefer the softer map. With the PTB you can always add any map that suits your style.

got my 2105 4rt 260 with them. RR not on list so cant quote!!

Took the plunge and just got myself a 300rr (Thanks to Thunderroad for giving me support towards this) Having ridden Montesa for just under 20 unbroken years ( ignoring my menage a trois with the Honda tlr 200) the 4rt has been my weapon of choice for nearly 10 years. and the 300rr is my 4th 4rt having had an ex Sandiford 2005, a 2008 tricked bike and a late 2015 std 260 off the late great Munch. These bikes have taken me to a 7th SSDT finish, a couple of Scott attempts, several top 3 clubman finishes in some of S3 events, a welsh O40 championship and recently securing this years ACU Normandale Masters over 50 championship. The above is just just trying to get my background and experience across. I deliberately have stayed away from trying the latest 2 strokes as I find the Honda experience enjoyable but appreciate a fancy lightweight 2 stroke may or not make be a better rider but may also reduce my trials riding enjoyment. (my recent 260 had a S3 pipe and Ohlins shock- it has had a PTB with my own map on it a times) So to the 300rr - I had not tried one before so when I picked it up from dealer yesterday it was my first experience. On initial start up the bike feels and sound soft and deep on tick over - this is a good hint as to what is to come. Today had a good few hours on the bike -mainly steams and rocks and on a venue I know well on previous bikes. Initial feel - not forgetting bike is brand new - and rocks seem twice the size waiting to scratch it the 300rr feels like a nice , new soft version of the 260. However as the bike loosened up a bit and my fear of scratching it came second to the enjoyment of riding the bike my opinion of the bike started to solidify - as a single statement - if you are a 4rt fan its like having your favourite meal cooked by a top chef. Its the same but somehow much better . For some reason the bike feels smaller - When I switched I found the 260 front end much lighter than the 2008. The RR feels very similar but even easier to move about (riders with Showa forks moving to a 300rr may see a bigger deference) The front wheel does not push out as much as previous. I had 2017 footrest hangers on my 260 but the riding position seems better again. The clutch seems superb - not sure if a change or just that its new but this along with the softer, greater grunt at the bottom of the power range makes the bike super stable on turns - especially turning into the rocky - slippery stream today - definitely best 4rt I have ridden in this respect. Travelling up streams the bikes does what it does best - grips and tracks well over rocks - the softer more torgue motor really helps and allows you to ride just off the throttle -something all Monts love. Both front and rear suspension is nice - maybe a little stiff to start with but as the day went on the bike became lighter and more responsive on the suspension but never lost its super stable feel. Trying the bike on some banks and turns again the extra torque allows the throttle to be backed off halfway up a bank and use the grunt to maintain grip - a plus over the 260. Both soft and quicker maps work in this situation. The quicker map I found suited me better and similar to the Sains map but could maybe get you in to trouble if a big handful of throttle grabbed at the wrong time. The softer map caught me out once when coming out of a stream up a bank - I found I didn't have the necessary zip to carry me over a slimy slab at the top of the bank. With the quicker map the bike sailed over. Didn't get chance to try any big climbs but on a reasonable incline the power is smooth, controllable and non stopping. The front wheel could be picked up and carried to your hearts content - all very controllable.. Never felt the bike was dragging me around - something i did find when my 2008 had a 280cc kit on. The front pipe is 30mm dia and looks a little longer - So to the 300rr -definitely all helps with that super steady bottom end. Finished off by practising my stop allowed skills and placing the font end on the stream banks and lifting back in. I had done this exercise on the 260 recently - the 300rr felts so much more stable and balance. Think the bottom end torque, better clutch and lighter front end combined to make this much improved on the RR. The standard shorter rear brake pedal works well with the set back footrests - those on std 4rts will be digging out the Honda pat number . Will advise more as and when I glean anything more from my new mount