nigel dabster

I have an 07 boy and its brilliant, a smaller than full size machine with all the standard ajp etc bits on it. Even a full size airbox. Pretty sure its made in spain with a moto morino motor, needs a weight on tho for a learner.

Is it much lighter than last years bike?

I have always stayed away from Betas because they always felt "strange" to me, the gasser was similar in feel to a Sherco so I liked that. The new Evo is very different to the rev 3 so if you can go for that. The GG quality is much better than it was, and I would imagine most riders have no more problems than the evo which in my case was nothing. I have a 290 Evo and it is similar in power(perhaps a bit more) to the Sherco 290.

doesn't work that well with punchcards.

I have a gas gas 50 with a flywheel weight and its as good as any ty with all the modern bits, a superb learners bike

Good point, and if I took a dab cos it was too tight or I can't hop for a clean it illustrates why stop allowed needs to be an option.

...which is why some dealers are stocking new 4rt's?

Ahh its all coming back to me but it was such a long time ago I thought it wasn't a secret anymore, sorry!

Any bona fide dealer could get it but importing it may be a different thing. Historically as you know the uk has always had importers.

Look mate if you can't keep up then lets not bother, if you could see it first hand then it would be simple to understand. The south midland centre is clearly defined in the ACU handbook but if you can't be bothered to look, roughly it goes from oxford to cambridge, north london to J18 M1. Within this area and many other bits of southern england due to various pressures which are not countrywide our land is very very limited. The problem is mainly that there is not an abundance of either rough or rocky places to ride. What we have often resembles flat fields like that you might see should you venture down the A1. Consequently the sections very often could not extract marks from the hard route if it was no stop, ie it needs to marked out tight. So clearly its harder non stop if not impossible, but as a stop allowed section will extract a variety of marks depending on the skill of the rider, which is what trials is all about isn't it?

(If only I could spell) I would love to be the importer of the ossa, its a breath of fresh air, and has some sound principles behind its different set up and looks like they have some serious guys on the project. Put the greeves and that bike side by side and I know my "buy british" ethos would get forgotten in an instant. Not too sure what the size of investment would be needed for the importership, but my guess is that if the retail price is right there would be plenty wanting it

Yes same place.

Me too I stumped up

Perhaps a geograhy lesson is in order, in case you didn't know the wallace is run on the south downs which has at least some hills. Perhaps you missed the fact that Seymours is man made?(well done stu!) Seriously you must have driven south on the A1 and looked left towards cambridge and thought nice and flat round here, no stones either? There are the odd bits here and there but stop allowed is almost always essential and enables us to put on trials which have a hard route. I wouldn't for one moment suggest this is always the case but for us around here its important to have that option.

Cabby is past his best and will never be world champion while bou raga and fajardo are around. His last world round win was in 06 I think. He is a great rider but sadly not the force he once was.

if only

Rubbish the mont was more expensive that sold , remember the ty mono 20% more than anything else that sold, and lets not mention the rtl. There is an aging demographic which has money to spend if this is the thing to have lighter better materials etc a premium will be paid.

cabby hoping the new sherco watched by Lluis and his dad. Nothing special but excellent bike control, not too sure if its archive (probably) or more recent. No showas though.

Come down here and ride an event and you will very soon understand why, we have no land really, period. If you can imagine a flat field with a ditch then thats something close.

Was he on showa forks?

How much of scotland does that include then?

I have heard from another source that there are no 08 bikes left. Plenty of 09's though and 10's will probably not appear until the hundreds of 09's have gone. Sadly the solid info is just that!

If this is all true why would they be running an expensive team?

Wiggy's got one.