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Hello, I've got a 20r with a lithium battery which is mainly used for practice. My 13year old rarely has it spinning as I think his extra weight helps a lot as the bike weighs nothing. Just a suggestion but is there any way of moving the footrests back mine has bolted on brackets which give about an inch but there's plenty room on the frame to move them further back.

It's a funny old sport for sure, I think most riders only judge themselves against a few others, just the few they feel they should keep up with the rest of the entry are of no concern. Anyway, if you don't enter the A/Championship class your admitting defeat before you start so what's the big deal. Frankly the bikes are a bit ott and most would ride just as well on an old Yamaha mono with decent tyres ,for the average rider it's just been progress for it's own sake for years . I certainly wouldn't want go back to a ty as I'm as lazy as the rest of you on the forum that should have packed in 20 years ago,be happy to go with a reduction in tyre width though.

Are you Scottish by any chance? All trials are subsidised to a massive degree. At our club no one takes expenses even though they've spent a day laying out and a day off work which is likely quite common in the trials world. At the Wobblers food ,toilets, stationary, markers you name it just appears thanks to the goodwill of members and I imagine most clubs have members like these. Anyone questioning an entry fee should really consider what the true cost of an entry would be if we didn't all band together and help out. Be interesting to do the sums and work out what a commercial operation would need to charge for an entry, I would hazard about £40.

Only tip I would give is that if you ride on the balls of your feet you can get your weight a lot further back, certainly makes more difference than a few mill on the stanchions

You're fiddling, I'm not telling you how to take it out as mine's never been out in 12 years nor has any part of the engine other than the carb been removed. Never ridden one that runs any better than mine some are different but not an improvement, the limiting factor on these bikes is lack of ground clearance. It will ground on stuff that other bikes clear easily so you've really got to work at keeping the front wheel light. Get out and play you'll never wear this bike out they're great.

We didn't have a world championship until about 75 ,every sport seems to need a world championship there days from tiddlywinks to Yachting and beyond,it's nonsense.

Interesting so we've gone from an 80 mile lap, 80 sections to a half mile stunt show over some rubble!

The beauty of trials it's all about participation , moving on, ND say's the Scott will never be a WTC round fair enough, but am I correct in saying it was once part of the British Championship?

The beauty is that you don't need a new bike.Beta still run a motor that Noah used on the ark and the 4rts aren't much newer. Only valid reason for a new bike is less maintenance.

Agree sounds like there's not enough oil in them .

So we've went backwards. never used to have any bother ,pistons , barrels ran for ever and always seemed to run fine. Now if you keep a bike a while they fill up with gunge carbs seem to go out of tune all the time there's always oil lying about motors even if you run them lean. I don't believe any modern oils are made with slow running cold 2t engines in mind and if they have they've not been tested in my back yard.

Anyone out there post a photo of a Gold Star BSA in Trials Trim or Hugh Viney's AJS . You can't really compete with bikes of that era.

Purpose made I consider my Yamaha TTr generator engine fitted in the Scorpa far superior to any current disposable offering. Pity it only gives you about 10 inches of clearance.

Are we related by any chance?

Hi Nastys, a 250 Scorpa will do all you need.If you've a good local dealer don't go by them and it's being patriotic. Trials bikes are nothing like MXers they're pretty mellow in comparison. 125s need more technique to get the best out of them and 300s are just a bit too much at times, plus 250s sell better. Now go and get that bike.

Hello, I've got your bikes double and have run it since new. There's no oil filter just change it every 20 rides or so and watch and not strip the drain bolt. The filters are common to most Scorpas 0f that era 2ts too so any decent trials shop should stock them the air box is good but tape the space between the exhaust and the mudguard and where the the box and mudguard meet. Trust me you wont need a manual nothing goes wrong but they're the same motor as the TT125. The captive nut that holds the tank is a pain mine still works can't really suggest anything. Never checked the valve clearances and I'll bet mines done more Trials than any single bike in Scotland so no help here. Bikes no power until it's warm, always been that way but once hot fine, most fiddle with jetting but mine is stock and runs better than any of the others I've tried. Just ride it and forget about it wish mine looked as good as yours,

I've got a couple of 80s and they do get well used, but even if they were ornaments there's little depreciation on them so it's kind of pointless selling them even if you only use them occasionally . It is a problem because there's nothing like them in the sections they're really good. We kind of need a cheapie starter bike for kids or even adults but there's nothing.

Hi lwd, got 2 of these 80s and never thought to seal the exhaust and it does make a right mess. I run 60ml oil to 5 l of fuel and this helps a bit but it's probably weaker than some would like. The silencers get a heavy time as every time you drop them on the left they tend to bend so could be tricky to seal plus the amount of oil that seems to build up in them is bad enough. They just run really cold unless you give them a roasting. Looks like the standard shock will swap between bikes but not 100%. Lock stops? these things will out turn anything the handlings spot on if you can use all the lock you'll be good enough to bounce it. Weakest points are the spacers between the wheel bearings on the SW if you tighten the spindles the spacers mushroom and draw the bearings into the hubs causing major problems. Also the hubs are really soft. Clutch hose is really exposed at the slave cyl we've snapped two and they're not cheap. Great bike and I can't see any youngster needing any more bike. Cheers.

It looked a real fun bike and sounded great, certainly reminded me of my Scorpa 200F which is my default bike. Frankly riding this would make very little difference to the average rider and they would likely enjoy themselves a whole lot more not being dragged across the hillside on some factory 300 that barely comes off idle.

The way we're going the Chinese will be the only ones trading with us . Anyone in the UK that criticises this needs to look at our own offerings, yes, nil .

There's a mixture screw in the bottom of the carb it's a plain brass screw and fits directly in front of the float bowl. Take it out. it's so fine it's like a needle and make sure the hole is clear reset at 3 turns out. It's critical it'll hardly start if it's blocked and it wont take throttle. This would be my advice, these bikes are fantastic nothing mechanically ever goes wrong. Let me know how it goes. Cheers,

Interesting, why Canada sure there's a sensible answer. Over here there's a problem with lack of cheaper bikes for people wanting to start trials, not saying this is the answer but if priced right it would help. To me it looks a bit too complicated but I'm often wrong, it might be what the market wants.

We do get the occasional member that hails from West of Lundin Links but we carry out a full Police check first , I hope no one finds out I'm from Cardenden or they'll be more than raised eyebrows at the bridge club and a termination of membership would be arriving 1st class from the R&A..

Obviously Fife specially if you don't want your bike nicked or stuck in traffic for half your life,you can buy a house at a reasonable price and get pretty decent weather,trials are rubbish I even run some , but there's plenty on and loads of help if you're rubbish on a bike. Yorkshire looks good on paper but it seems to be full of English for some reason.

Being that the average rider is over 40 I just don't know where the idea of brightly coloured skin tight clothing comes about. Frankly most trials gear would be considered to camp for strictly, stick to MTB gear or MX at least you can look sensible even though your riding may indicate other wise.