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Asking 6500 which feels at least 500 high to me.

Considering a used 2014 250 Racing. I know nothing about them, other than what I've gleaned from this forum. Sounds like the Racing edition a parts bin end of year upgrade sort of bike, which is fine by me. That aside, is there anything I should look out for with a used one? I haven't seen it in person yet, but it's described by the local (very reputable) dealer as like new.

I don't get it... The TRS is (assuming a 250) $7900 (USD). The Beta 250 Factory is $8300 (USD) list. Even at those prices (I'd likely pay less for the Beta, probably not the TRS), $400 on an $8k bike doesn't really strike me as a concern one way or the other.

Insert Internet sarcasm here...

Good: it's a beta Bad: it's a 300, you'll die FWIW, I think it's the most reliable bike in the trials field, outside of a Montesa perhaps. Certainly (again, with the exception of honda) it's the most stable manufacturer. The Beta's haven't changed substantially in years. The only real problem with mine in 120 hours were things I broke. And maybe the clutch, but that was mostly me again (poor adjustment).

So I know this probably isn't what you want to hear but.... I live in MA too. And aside from the last few days, it's been typical New England cold around here. Those days we had that were into single digits, my truck didn't want to start, let alone my trials bike (which is presently non-existent, but you get the idea). I really wouldn't worry about it too much. I had a new KTM EXC-F a few years ago that wouldn't start when it was under 50F, let alone now. Wait till it warms up a bit and I suspect you'll (a) have no problems starting it and b. won't lose any fingers riding it.

Out of idle curiosity, anyone know if Raga runs the same carb on his bike, or if he's using his own kit?

Dear users of the internet... it's your lucky day! I've decided a quorum of people I've never met should pick my next bike, since I can't quite make up my mind (note: insert internet sarcasm here) What'll it be: a Factory EVO 250 or a TRS (displacement unknown)? Pros Beta: lots of bling, proven package, I've had one before and they go forever, pretty easy to work on, familiar and italiano! come io! TRS: new(!), no paint (it all gets rubbed off anyway, so why bother), looks even easier to work on in terms of access. Cons Beta - clutch issues (clutch fix) TRS - unproven

Those meters are useless as tachometers. Don't worry about it.

Gotcha, I thought that might be the case. Thanks!

On my '13 Evo 300, the clutch pack was set up with reversible spring tophats that let you lighten the clutch pull. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if the 250 has the same setup?

I have no idea about the UK, but in the US, all off-road motorcycles (bikes that can generally never be road registered) are sold with an MSO (manufacturers certificate of origin). It's roughly the equivalent of a title for a vehicle that would be road registered. It looks roughly like this: http://www.motorcycle-manufacturer-license.org/MCO-Sample-blank-front.jpeg Because they're never used in the registration process, people tend to lose MSO's, but I wouldn't buy a used bike from anyone that didn't have it. It's pretty much the only semi-guarantee I have that it wasn't stolen.

I wouldn't really think one could over grease anything, unless you were forcing grease under pressure into a sealed housing. The head bearings definitely aren't that. Slather them with as much grease as you like... the problem is the over tightening, not the grease.

I'd get another 50 hours out of that tire (seriously)

What does very notchy mean? Sticking? Overtightened the lock nut perhaps. You really don't need to tighten it down at all. Snug it up then another quarter turn.

People only suspect that? As a relative trials newcomer with lots of experience on other types of bikes, it seems obvious. Trials is 10 percent the bike, if that. Having said that, I'm all for a new bike!

New England. Not really worried about parts, I just got the impression (perhaps incorrectly) that the keihin in generally preferred, and it just happens to be what I'm familiar with.

Apparently the first ones coming to my area of the US are already sold, so some folks are willing to chance it. From what I can see in pics and whatnot it looks well engineered. Is it as solid as a Beta? That's where I'm plunking down my money if I don't take a chance with the trs. There's a lot I like the look of though, although the delorto is a mystery to me. Anyone ridden a 250 yet?

Who punched Ferrer?

I've had two pairs of Gaerne oiled boots. I ride ~100 hours a season. The soles on mine looked worse than yours after a single season. The Gaerne's are very soft, and there's no way around that. I ended up moving to Alpinestars for that reason. They're not as comfortable, but they're not bad, and your position on the pegs, and therefore the bike, is very different and will take some getting used to. You stand a lot higher as the soles don't bend anywhere near as much (or at all compared to the Gaerne's).

My beta was the same, though to be fair my Sherco did it as well.

Beta makes one that is plug and play. No wiring required.

That's how all the Oset's come. All those kids growing up riding are doing it with the brake on the bars... same as a pedal bike. I think the only reason full size E bikes don't come that way is to cater to people who are just more used to the foot brake.

If ever there was a motorsport where equipment has a relatively trivial influence on performance, trials is it...

Whichever one gets you excited. I'd go for the Beta having had both... I just think it's better built. But you'd be happy either way.