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4RT advise from one who can't tell the difference between a fake 4RT the real thing The bigger Master Cyl does make it more progressive.

Of course its Photoshop. Look at the bottom shock mount. It looks like its mounted left of the chain guard (maybe on the chain?) The shock looks like its at a 45 degree angle and linkless. Let's be serious. The silencer looks totally fake. As does the tank decal and rear fender. Makes no sense using the CRF motor.

1) Crikey! It's Photoshop 2) It's Spanish prank. Happens every year. Gotcha. Again. The "day of the innocentes" (April Fools) 3) of course, speculation on the price of a fictitious bike makes total sense to me. 4) and, expecting Honda to build a 2 stroke engine makes complete sense to me. 5) Nothing wrong with a 2 stroke with EFI. Only that Gas Gas, Sherco, Beta, Scorpa and even Xispa/XPA DON'T BUILD ONE!. Ossa is the only one with balls enough to build one.

Good apology, thanks. The 2nd post by Lee Harris confirms that the 4rt is not made in Italy. As for the rest, call it what you want, trials is still a limited market.

The title of you post is false. The article you quote is false and full of speculations. The first line you write is false. The rest is speculation. Montesa is in Spain and not Italy. Your replies do not address these falsehoods. That is why it is seen as controversial.

Proof that you shouldn't believe what you read. The article is total rubbish. Montesa and Honda have stated several times in official press releases that production will remain in Spain. End of story. Production of the 4RT has NOT moved to Italy. Montesa PR The rest of the article is based mostly on the OPINIONS and SPECULATIONS of Mr. Heath Brindley ???? who has no official connection to Montesa/Honda. Astronrapide, your is not the typical 2nd post for a noob. Curious.

Who is the report for?

you can't turn off the fuel .....with fuel injection there is not a petcock

That is NOT an official factory video. Its homemade job. It is all previously posted stuff pulled off the net.

Fair enough. The 4RT is overdue for and model revamp. Disagree that its day has come and gone. its still a great clubman bike and all the 4rt's and 315's will still be running strong years from now when all the 150 lb bikes are in the scrap bin.

You don't sound like a "big fan" here. http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=931963

Good idea. MotoTrial has been in use in Europe for decades. Don't see how you can call it an americanism.

Different doesn't equal Better

and what is the connection between you and the rider that won the world championship? Stickers?

Why not add in a few Gate Sections as tie breakers?

Honda has factories in about 27 different countries. Did you think everything was still made in Japan?

Look at how quickly it sets off at 1:21 with no wheelspin. This bike will to set the bar high.

Wise words!

The cost of two strokes will go up as emission regs force them to use EFI. Osaa will be the first. The new CEO at Gas Gas has already stated that it is his goal to bring EFI to their two stroke models. No Factory has produced the ultimate 4T yet: the Mont needs to shed some lbs and gain CC's, the Beta needs EFI, the Scorpa needs a smaller top end, the Sherco needs work.

Sorry for your trouble. I can't figure how Gas Gas remains so popular.

Try Jared Bates at www.southwestmontesa.com also there is a chap in BC named Steve O'Dell that has many Montesa spares.

are you using a resistor R TYPE plug?

Make sure there is not an exhaust leak at the cylinder.

There is a difference between PRICE and COST.

Godd comments Zippy. Its nice to hear an honest impression of a 4T and not the comments laced with prejudice. There is a place in our sport for both. I think the 4T's are here to stay.