nigel dabster

I suppose experience probably tells you whats right but Ive never heard of anyone using a torque wrench much on a trials bike, let alone a throttle anyway. I always set mine up so it wont turn on the bars I would assume thats less than 3nm? Always make sure the bars are perfectly clean and pinch the exposed joint up tight first so as to stop mud getting in. Set it up so its as far "in" as it can be without fouling bar end.

thought that was the case.

I actually answered this already,keep up BIlly...

Never heard that before.

All trials were marked 0135 untill the 60's(?) The principle was after 3 dabs as long as you rode non stop you avoided a five. therefore it was to distinguish between a rider who got through a section as opposed to one that didnt, a 2 mark difference. 4 wouldnt encourage a push through enough as it would only save the one. Thats how i think it was reasoned anyway.

no montesas available new apart from the odd one out there now, scorpa are they available?

no it doesnt. But we all (except you!) know even 20 riders will make an unacceptable easter sunday noise.

#999 Thank you for your insight

Dad off = Rubbish. Beta and sherco as light as can get? Frailty of gas gas (oh please change the record) lets see if the ssdt riders agree/prove otherwise? Which mx engine is used in road racing? Again you go on about enforcing weight limits how? Please Explain? "May encourage" "volume manufacturers" "consumers" are we talking about the same sport?

Scorpa 4t was always yam engine, 2t is a tyz or sherco motor. I think....

I used to hate Suzukis, ive just changed my mind..................

Move it as far out on spline as you can, that works and/or file a bit off the back

I cant see how the brand can live on, the debt and situation is too bad surely? Close it down and get the shed next to jtg start from scratch seems the best way forward, they can get going a few at a time.

Sadly i could never manage 6 days now or rather my body couldnt. I note that 6 entries are currently available due to late withdrawals.

read it muppet road trial easter sunday mass start?

sorry confused now, is it more weight equals more danger or not as youve said both above? Also isnt it therefore the case lighter bikes equals safer sport? Citing one anecdotal crash doesnt mean that coc's are exposing anyone to more danger whatsoever, except perhaps in this one exception. However to actually help you what the coc or course setters shouldve done is to give the easier course riders the choice to do the steps OR trod with a wide gate. (you dont mark out much do you?)

With such a reasoned post its difficult not to believe its all tripe. But it is. To list all my thought on this would result in an even longer post than I have written so far. (Thank god) If bikes were cheaper more would be sold.(Absolutely not maybe the odd bike here or there but a bit cheaper where are these riders sitting on beck banks waiting for a new bike at 3k? Arent they the ones riding second hand bikes?) Reducing weight, especially once exotic materials are used adds significantly to cost. (There are very few production bikes with exoctic materials the use of titanium/magnesium etc is minimal) All other things being equal reducing weight reduces robustness, crash resistance, longevity and reliability. (Absolute bo((olcks aluminium spindles being a perfect example of where your over generaliastion and sweeping statements simply are untrue) Weight reduction is a race no one can win it therefore represents a waste of development effort and adds to product price. (A bultaco from the 80's is much heavier than the current bikes so whats not winning about a 2015 production bike over that, isnt it progress?) To be competitive a bike has to be on or near the minimum weight limit, this means having a light engine or compromising the design elsewhere. (if this were true then no 4rt's would be sold?) If the minimum weight limit were higher the engine could be heavier. (it isnt enforced, it never will be we've been through this several times please do not bother to regurgitate your "facts" which are lies.) The need for a light engine means to be competitive a manufacturer has to develop a trials specific engine which has few or no other use. ( if this were the case the current engines all at least basically10 years old would have been lightened and re designed?) Low volume of trials sales does not justify development of such an engine or results in development costs having to be recouped over a small volume of sales. (ten years again look around you numpty) If engines could be heavier they (or near variants) would have other applications. (so now you want trials bike manufacturers to sell (in your eyes unreliable bikes) in different disciplines to further stretch r and d? This may tempt volume manufacturers like Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki back into trials. not any time soon

Lets not all have rose tinted glasses though, it gets harder every year, maybe too hard now and out of the 30 000 odd trials riders worldwide (5000 in the uk?) only 300 enter?

its only sold for a euro if someone takes on the debt..................................

and Japan didnt even send a team to tdn, why do we allow them to bend the rules it isnt the nice jolly the fim get to go out there is it.........

Whats the cost of this apparent quality? ..and you know little about trials?

If you think a 4t can do enduro and trial it explains alot. The some reason hiro armstrong etc didnt sell was lots of reasons notably they werent as good as spanish/italian makes. But as components are all the same except frame and engine there is more scope now surely?

how many times do we have the same conversation when the wtc goes to japan? Yamaha aint coming back get over it. Billy bolt rides scorpa is the story here..............

Even when you make a sensible and valid point you trash it with your "lighter bike" crusade. You are a plonker.

The product is really rather good, hence its popularity. profitability? If they cant make a profit selling the most popular bikes then can make?