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Honestly I don't know obviously it's 26 mil and it went on easy enough. It' s still not perfect but good enough for clubbie stuff. Bought it cheap from a pal who said it came from a Fantic certainly wouldn't spend a lot of money on one but that could be a Scottish thing, Sorry I'm no help,I think I told you before I had one of these new it never ran right so I don't want to waste any more time fiddling. See how it goes tomorrow,

Hello there couldn't add anything as mine has a set of Beta usd forks on it,looks odd but works fine. Not been on mine for a while but out today. Last time out I rode like a puddin, funny thing is the bike never ran better with a second hand OKO carb on it. Tried to blame it on a stuck open power valve but on inspection it was stuck shut so that didn't wash. Latest excuse is the tyre was goosed which it was but didn't really excuse my disgraceful performance. Anyway new tyre on, though like a true Scotsman I skimped and bought a Dunlop Trial on Sunday and I'm expecting a win, have to be optomistic. Cheers the noo.

I'm certainly no fan of age related classes. A more gemeral point I would make is that age related classes need questioned. What's over 40s all about? Dougie just won the Scottish aged 40 (Had the cheek to take the trophy too and I'm not joking) At club level there's no real difference when riders hit 40 probably just a bit less fit. At 50 you are going off the boil a bit but you've really got to accept it, I imagine most of us have enough plastic trophys in the loft to add to the general clutter of our modern lives. And frankly at over 60 you should be glad to be still riding without worrying about trivia. Room 101 for them all

Back in the day I had 2 rl Suzukis self indulgent I know. One for practice one for competition, keep one good. Didn't really work just ended up with 2 clapped out bikes instead of one.

Well informed post Dan. The point I would make is that modern bikes are virtually unrideable without constant use of the clutch. I watch beginners struggling with this every event and would probably get on better if they left the clutch alone but the bikes can't be ridden that way. In these parts most of our trials are won by an 11 year old ona Beta 80 you've got to ask why does everyone have a 300?

I'll edit it for you ,cerainly outlast most of there owners by a margin.

Not really any point, going by their owners average age most probably got one instead of a gold watch when they retired.

A wee Oset story. My 11 year old moved up to a Beta 80 at Christmas so the Oset 20r was def surplus. He'd been on a borrowed ty 80 lately as a stopgap the last few months and how can I say ruined it and I had to return it to a friend (probably ex) Anyway first club trial I really fancied my chances against junior on the wee Oset. Now bearing in mind I don't think he ever finished a Trial on the Oset as it's on lead acids I thought my 40 years experience would offset the disadvantage of my 12.5 stone. All went well matching him mark for mark until a small hillclimb, no way I had to ride it like a caterpiller on steroids just to keep moving. Soundly beaten the shame. Moving on (As usual) I laid out todays trial and surprisingly all the sections were on the level! If only I could get the batteries to last I could be in with a chance. Sadly this envolved pushing it up all the hills between sections my pacemaker was more in need of a battery than the Oset. Well worth is though as I punched tha air in victory as the batteries gave out on the climb up to the pits. Didn't think it would be so much fun beating an 11 year old but I wish he would stop crying.(Only joking) .

For sure I think that was in the David Knight era. .

I really don't know a couple of years back Paul Bolton did the Scott Trial on his KTM I think. Wouldn't say it was much more technical than Getzen certainly plenty open country (80 miles) Obviously light years behind on observation but also a good hr or so over the winners time. I'm not so sure a trials bike wouldn't be a bad bet I feel it's more about credibility. Graham Jarvis would know.

As I said before I've no gripe with this. However when a rider turns up with the latest classic thats been lying in a shed for 40years it's time to get the gas masks out. Normally some 50 something codger trying to re live his youth with an old Bultaco/Ossa?SWM with an exhaust full of stale 2 stroke that is constantly trying to ignite. Absolutely no consideration for the general entry, then for a finale the crank seals will fail just to give the whole country a taste of this indescribable stench. This does happen and I was that Bultaco rider.

Surely I speak for all fellow Scots when I say I would rather take up Morris Dancing than even open the front cover of any manual be it for bike/TV/ chainsaw you name it. Maybe this explains why I can't sort much (Anythingif it's electric) anyway it makes life a lot simpler I don't have to pretend I know anything.

Rode it the last couple of years and as I only ride easy club trials it's a bit of an eye opener. Looking at a section I decide if it's really worth it going for a clean and if not plan out a controlled 3. This way I don't tire myself out and it saves the bike and saves a lot of marks at the end of 180 sections. You can look a right puddin dabbing all the way through easy bits but it does pay off Not often I worry about gear selection 2nd for the loose stuff and really big steps 1st for the rest ran out of riding ability before I ran out of grip. .

Luckily it's not much of a problem up here as most trials are held in well open spaces not enclosed valleys. or really short circuits. You do get the odd "classic" bike that there owners seem to run on a mixture of old diesel and tar usuallly compounded by an exhaust loud enough cause earth tremors and leaking enough oil and fuel to run a modern bike on. If you get stuck in a queue with a coupe of them the fumes will be the least of your worries. A few minutes listening to there owners going on about things like Sammy Miller points ignition steering head angles you will lose the will to live probably hoping the fumes from their disgraceful mounts will cause you to pass out.

Positive as usual Nigel but sadly all I can add is I hope it rides better than it looks

I certainly wont single out Gas Gas for any criticism but I would make a more general point. Owning and running a Trials bike requires a fair degree of meckanical know how. This isn't good as it's a big barrier to people taking up the sport. It's all right for us that have grown up with bikes but put yourself in a new guys shoes.

I have to admit I'm an armchair fan of hard enduro but I can't really take in that Getzen Rodeo. It looks like it's set in a park and appears to be a 3 mile long trials section. There must be all of about 500yards where the bikes get out of bottom gear. The spectator value is awesome and has great crowds But tell me anyone that's been there wouldn't it be miles easier on a trials bike not that it would be any fun to watch.

Surely it's better to have a banter with the observer. It's harder to 5 someone you like not that I'm suggesting this happens. I certainly don't mind the odd stint observing as it gives me a chance to tell everyone how rubbish they are and generally criticise there bike.

Count me in and take Raga Fuji and Cabestany with him. Way it's going they'll be at the top when they draw there pensions, look at Dougie over 40 and won the Scottish, can't believe he had the cheek to accept the over 40 trophy.

Sadly most of the entrants only have a few pre65s left in them so it would be quite upsetting. Probably around for the original version of this!

My 2014s though it's done a couple of six days I don't use it much so take my advice with a pinch of salt. I spray really watery chain lube (Or similar) lnto all the moving parts in the hope that some of it manages to get in. I remove the bigwashers on the swing arm pivots and try to force lube in there too and slacken off any bits I can to allow the lube in. I've replaced the bushes once and really they were fine, more of a precaution. I do lube it a lot though at least before and after every ride. Hope this helps.

I thought for a while that modern trials needs to re invent itself It's a real clumsy format with loads of rules and routes that's nothing like the sport I started out in. New folks heads spin when they turn up and when they look at some of the sections about pass out Personally I would prefer what I would call an "Enduro" style of trial where it's not all about the sections more flowing . I know I wouldn't want an out and out race but there must be a format that would work. I've bandied this about in the club up here for a while the trouble is they all think like trials riders. I've not given up yet.

Exactly what I took on me and my wifes first date. She was well impresssed that's a 2 course meal round these parts.

Didn't want to get personal it's self confessed on our local forum if you want to look. I'm taking a flask in future but if it explodes and covers me with burning hot soup at the Trial they will be hearing from my solicitor.

I'm not making this up for once. A local Trials club; no names. is to stop serving soup ( FOC I may add ) to riders after the trial. Apparently a member pointed out at the AGM that a rider falling ill after partaking may leave the club wide to legal action. No way is this decision connected to the club being in the North East of Scotland an area noted for extreme thriftyness and deserted streets on poppy day.