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This is a long shot, but, how long was it in bits for? If the stator and throttle body have been disconnected for some time, maybe a week, then the throttle body will need re programming as it can loose its memory. If you know anyone with another 4rt, try your throttle body on theirs.

If it was running before you took it apart, its likely to be something simple. The fuel pump connection has caught me out before, as has the earth under the ht coil. The rear shock has rubbed through the loom before. The only component failure I've experianced has been the bank angle sensor

sanded or shot blasted. If you are to re anodise them they will shot blast them anyway.

if you enjoy your trail riding then a big engine would be better, a 4 stroke would be perfect. A 125 can be difficult to ride as they have to be screamed to make them do anything useful. The montesa and beta 4 bangers both produce a smooth strong power and bucket loads of torque and they really shift when you press the go button. Unless your riding in dusty conditions then cost of running isn't much more than a 2 stroke. Engine rebuids tend to be few and between in the uk, especially with the mont. Regular oil and filter changes are a must, as is checking the valves. BUT, when they do go wrong they are expensive. Buy as new as you can afford.

no, not yet! Electric bikes are great for the kids, but the adult ones need a lot more development before they'll win me over. I hope ktm do make a trials bike, I'm sure they'll sell plenty, be it electric or petrol.

Don't post again unless you've got something sensible to say!!!

You're right in using the aggressive approach as they do need to be ridden hard in mud. If the mud is deep or without a bottom to provide some sort of traction the mont will never go through it by making it spin, as you would on the raga. Its difficult to adapt to riding in the mud, but once you find the technique it'll become easier to practice. The best way is to avoid the muddy trials altogether! Once you have the bike at full chat and spinng, at the point of when you think all hope is lost and your not going to get up there, shut off with your weight over the back and it WILL grip, wanting to stand you on the back wheel. You've then got to feed the power back in to carry on that momentum. The 4rt grips on the overrun. Its tricky learn, but satisfying when you get it right. it will take time, a lot of time but stick with it.

Weigh each wheel on the bathroom scales. Try locate some old lead, possibly from a local builder, offer him some money as its worth £1 per kilo in scrap. You can then smelt it back down into casted shapes to fit neatly in the sump guard. Dont breath in the fumes though!

Thats what Ewan Mcgregor should have used for doing "the long way round".

Mine hardly ever gets checked after a new tyre gets bedded in. Start with about 3.5 to4 ish and add a little when it starts to roll around too much on the sidewalls. You'll soon get the feel of what its doing and what it should be doing. Experiment with between 3 and 6psi and find your happy medium as different pressures suit different riding styles.

I know Phil very well, and his bike is very nice indeed. If I and many of us on here were in the same position we'd have that bike too. But with no disrespect to Phil as we have some good battles together in trials, he rode the beta as good as the mont.I'm saying that if anyone can get the most out of a standard bike then you should be thinking of making a living from trials. The bike is pretty much always going to be more capeable than almost every rider, with a few exceptions. I have practised the same sections for the last 15 years, and they are on the limit of my skill level, not the bikes level, whether it was a 2001 scorpa, 2003 rev3, 04 315r or my 4rt's none of them made me ride much better and neither would a 300 RR. I don't condone anyone's choice of bike, as like me and you, its your pride and joy which you've worked very hard for, I was merely stating that it probably wouldn't make us ride much better.

If your at a level where you can get the most out of a standard bike then you should be riding the wtc circus. You could give us bou's bike and it wouldn't make us ride much better. Bou could jump on a std bike and make the rest of us look like beginners. Yes the RR looks good, and its always nice to have the latest model, but its not massively different from the first 4rt 10 years ago.

Will it make any of us a better rider? Probably not.

Used Dunlops for last 11 years. They are probably the best tyre for NOT coming off the rim. The new 803gp is a big improvement on the std 803 and they're not much more expensive. Can't comment on IRC. I found michelins punctured too easily and then fell off the rim straight away, but I'd put that down to not suiting my riding style. You probably cant go wrong with either. The tyre is far more capeable than most riders

It does ride very well traditionally, 1st gear covers just about everything, whether its pulling slowly off the bottom end or holding it flat until the valves bounce and launching it into obit. I have 1 particular section which was a 3rd gear jump on the 2 stroke, the 4rt manages it in 1st

They've got more than 1 gear????

Errr, because its higher than a 2 stroke? Never bothered me either.

Dont be fooled into thinking Narita's baby SYF was a standard prooduction model. That will be rather expensive and tricked up. Yamaha equipped Crosser with one to good effect a few years ago. Looked production but certainly wasn't a production model inside. PR stunt.

If it gets worse when its warm it's likely to be valves, worth checking them anyway.

Or if anyone wants to make me an offer for the wife and I'll keep the shock.....

I have a Showa rear shock spare which came off a 2007 bike. I will fit new OEM spherical bearings, bushes and seals. Anyone who fancys upgrading a 2014 or 2015 to a Showa please pm me and make me an offer. Thanks

I think its a safe bet the most significant change will be the stickers. Personally I'd like to see a return to the programmable throttle bodies on all both models.

Interesting read, so are we comparing trials bikes to works rally cars in the ssdt chat? Well if so, my mont is the escort, bou's bike loosley based on a production model. The vertigo would be the lancia. Build the competition version then homologate it. I'd have the lancia any day of the week....?

They all have route cards with mileage and groups on so they know how long they've got. Just need to ride faster.... Dibs is probably the fastest rider there across ground, for whatever reason he was delayed without getting delay on his card, if he'd pulled the pin he could have made 30mins up

stop dabbing so much in the water.....