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Modern bike, modern tyres, normal body weight -4psi rear - 5.5 psi front.
Drop rear for very soft and muddy going or if riding easier routes.
Check pressures if change in temps - ie cold night - sunny morning. Tyres can gain 1 psi easily in theses conditiions. Don't park bike in the sun before checking - black tyres absorb a lot of heat energy if left in the sun.
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"Finished trial put bike back on trailer had cup of tea and bar of chocolate. watched several other folk limp back in with broken bikes (non of which were 4RTs). went home washed bike had tea and went out for half a gallon of beer."
Bl---dy Wuss
Got to have a gallon of beer at least.
Ps
maybe you need to try a technical request on how to attached a tax disc to 4rt
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Have to admit Woody some conditions they really do struggle - too much torgue at very low revs I belive. But for maybe 4 or 5 section per year that dont suit I ride hundreds that benefit from the suspension and torque of the 4rt motor and given half a chance at a blast across a bit of moor or open ground makes you a real hooligan as the speed and handling are a real blast.
I found you have to leave the clutch alone to get grip, roll on the power then be as aggresive as you like with the throttle and it will grip and drive, just keep your weight over the back end to keep it gripping.
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If you've ridden a 4rt once and not liked it then you have no right to comment here - fact!!!.
If you've owned one for 6 months or more and don't like it or had had bad experience then carry on adding to this post.
Having ridden Monts relatively successful over the last 10 years plus, the 4rt is a different beast and you need to own one to make any valid comment.
They are maybe not the best to hop and flick but given a proper trial they are still very good - best bike i have ridden in SSDT. Flattered my ability!!!!.
Trouble is lots of people think they are Raga or Dabil and buy world champ class bikes when they are club champ riders at best - I think the demands are like chalk and cheese. John Lampkin has said the 200cc Beta is probably a superb clubman bike but probably sells few -the 4rt I thinks is a bit like this. Set it up right, learn to ride it and you have a very competitive reliable trials bike - just not fashionable
But I could be bias
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As Munch and Addict said.
Riding it still makes me smile more than any other bike I've owned
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Scores look sensible and congrats to Jake for his maiden A class win
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X11 - maybe thats the diffrence. Have heard Dunlops are a pig
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Just put wheel on the ground -preferably somewhere solid - get your heel right into the bead and hop up and down. Change tyres every weekend and never a problem. Don't know if Mont wheels are easier
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I use my heel - well portable and cheap!!!
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Having ridden Wye Valley in the 90's and now having a go at the Normandale series seems a lot of folk like a traditional trial run under no stop rules and catering for good club men on modern and good boys on twin sock. air cooled mono and pre 65.
Last weeks Normadales had 100 plus both days.
What date have you in mind for this year as fancy a trip back down memory lane
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Don't know the stats but guess the "guest" riders were local riders who knew how good things where going to be or friends or associates of those riding and hence sharing some of the travel costs.
I was totally amazed that no queuing occurred either day with the quantity of riders all having a superb weekend. I finished well in time both days much to my surprise.
Again well done to all involved and whoever booked the weather let me have your phone number.
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How come in the days of being green and eco friedly when even thinking of mixing your two stroke oil will kill off half of antartic can junk mail still be allowed.
What must the costs be in printing, transporting and then collecting in refuse or recycling for nobody to read.
About time they taxed every bit of junk or unrequested mail
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Councils are the worst - had 2 full size A4 enevolopes posted last week with glossy A4 glossy blurb in English and Welsh saying how good they where. One addresed to me and one to the missus (in case we wouldn't let each other read it). Went straight in the bin anyway.
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Home help and meals on wheels is more appropriate dabster
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Totally agree -cracking weekend.
Thanks to involved
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I run 10 / 41 but that is higher than most - but I like a tall first gear.
Have ridden ones with 9 front and they seems to make the bike way to slow and forces you to use 2nd rather than 1st.
10 43 is probably a good compromise as it slows 1st down enough not to to worry about using the clutch all the time on the naggery bits
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Sandifords always close on a tuesday
Had E mail of Caroline ref bits I wanted and all seems as normal.
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"Couple of sections where a little tight"
Only ridden in 2 Normadales so still not sure what to expect regarding severity of rules etc and never like to be critical.
I guess this weekend will give me a good bench mark of what is good
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http://www.camborneandredruthmotorclub.co.uk/index.php
Cant fault any trial where the results are home before me.
Couple of sections where a little tight but personally enjoyed it
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Look in manual or download pages from one of the threads on here. Tells you what to check with a multimeter and go from there.
Look for people rewinding stators in TMX or on the web - Ive used somebody in the west county a few years ago.
Good luck
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Had at least one Mont need stator coils rewinding - very similar symptoms - don't buy new but get them rewound.
If you look in the manual it gives resistance vales to check
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Jordi
Extracted riding Nos for you as well - check official site for confirmation. Save file from web site and then will open in excel
NUMBER NAME START FINISH
1 TERRY CRAIG 9.3 3.3
2 SCOTT MARTIN 9.31 3.31
3 MARK STUBBLEFIELD 9.32 3.32
4 STEVEN TREMAINE 9.33 3.33
5 SIMON FERRIS 9.34 3.34
6 9.35 3.34
7 9.36 3.35
8 BARRY CRAIG 9.37 3.37
9 JON BLISS 9.38 3.38
10 SIMON THORNHILL 9.39 3.39
11 MARK THORNHILL 9.4 3.4
12 ANDY PATTISON 9.41 3.41
13 STEVE SELL 9.42 3.42
14 GEOFF MUSTER 9.43 3.43
15 CLIVE CHARLTON 9.44 3.44
16 NIC DRAPER 9.45 3.45
17 JOHN HOWKINS 9.46 3.46
18 DAVID LAMIN 9.47 3.47
19 STEPHEN FARRELL 9.48 3.48
20 MARTYN GOODALL 9.49 3.49
21 JOHN PENFOLD 9.5 3.5
22 COLIN MEW 9.51 3.51
23 DAVID BECKETT 9.52 3.52
24 STEVE BECKETT 9.53 3.53
25 STEVE BROADBENT 9.54 3.54
26 CHRIS ANSTEE 9.55 3.55
27 PHIL DUCKER 9.56 3.56
28 SIMON LEVETT 9.57 3.57
29 JON YENDELL 9.58 3.58
30 9.59 3.59
31 JOHN LAKER 10.00. 4
32 MICK THOMPSON 10.01 4.01
33 PHILIP MARTIN 10.02 4.02
34 TREVOR WIDDOWSON 10.03 4.03
35 MARCUS FAULKNER 10.04 4.04
36 JAMES LAKER 10.05 4.05
37 ROBIN MARTIN 10.06 4.06
38 DAVID RICHARDS 10.07 4.07
39 JAMES LAMIN 10.08 4.08
40 PAUL EVELY 10.09 4.09
41 IAN WATTS 10.1 4.1
42 DAVE BROWN 10.11 4.11
43 PETE RUSCOE 10.12 4.12
44 DANIEL WATSON 10.13 4.13
45 GEORGE EDYVEAN 10.14 4.14
46 JIM ASHFORD 10.15 4.15
47 ANTHONY REW 10.16 4.16
48 IAN BAKER 10.17 4.17
49 PHILIP WIFFEEN 10.18 4.18
50 DAVID PYE 10.19 4.19
51 RICHARD ALLEN 10.2 4.2
52 MARTIN GILBERT 10.21 4.21
53 MARK HICKEN 10.22 4.22
54 KEN NOLAN 10.23 4.23
55 MARTIN WILMORE 10.24 4.24
56 DAVID THORPE 10.25 4.25
57 PHIL WICKETT 10.26 4.26
58 DAVID STRANK 10.27 4.27
59 BARRY BURTON 10.28 4.28
60 ANDY PAXTON 10.29 4.29
61 ALAN WRIGHT 10.3 4.3
62 PETER GAUNT 10.31 4.31
63 LEN HUTTY 10.32 4.32
64 PETER POLLARD 10.33 4.33
65 CARL BATTY 10.34 4.34
66 ROBERT TAYLOR 10.35 4.35
SIDECARS
70 TRISTAN JENKIN 10.45 4.45
71 SAM RULE 10.46 4.46
72 ALASTAIR ALLAN 10.47 4.47
73 ROBERT HEAD 10.48 4.48
74 CHRIS DAKIN 10.49 4.49
75 PETER DALE 10.5 4.5
76 SHAUN JENKIN 10.51 4.51
77 MICK TREAGUS 10.52 4.52
78 MICHAEL JEWELL 10.53 4.53
79 ANDREW JEWELL 10.54 4.54
80 PHIL SPARKS 10.55 4.55
81 DAVID TUCK 10.56 4.56
82 TONY CRABTREE 10.57 4.57
83 MARK KEMP 10.58 4.58
84 ADRIAN SMITH 10.59 4.59
85 GARETH ANDREW 11 5
86 SEEMOND STEPHENS 11.01 501
87 JON TUCK 11.02 5.02
88 ROBIN LUSCOMBE 11.03 5.03
89 RUPERT KIMBER 11.04 5.04
90 BERNIE CHAMBER 11.05 5.05
91 LEE GRANBY 11.06 5.06
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COILN DOMMETT NORMANDALE TRADITIONAL TRIAL
RIDERS LIST
A Pre 1975 British machines
Martin Wilmore BSA 350 Swindon
David Thorne Triumph Wingerworth
Phil Whickett Cub Bude
David Strank BSA 250 Ashford
Barry Burton James Matlock
Andy Paxton James 350 Warwick
Alan Wright James 252 Stratford-upon-Avon
Peter Gaunt BSA 185 Knaresbrough
Len Hutty Surrey
Peter Pollard Mount Hawke
B Twin shock machines
Ian Baker Honda 200 Wheddon Cross
Philip Wiffeen Fantic 300 Farnborough
David Pye Middlesbrough
Richard Allen Fantic 212 Rushden
Martin Gilbert Fantic 300 South Brent
Mark Hicken Fantic 300 Radford
Kev Nolan SWM 350 Bordon
C Air Cooled mono machines
Pete Ruscoe gas gas 250 Stoke-on Trent
Daniel Watson gas gas 250 Knutsford
George Edyvean Fantic Tregrethan
D machines not A,B or C ridden by rider over 40
Jon Yendell Beta evo Woking
John Laker Sherco 250 Chichester
Mick Thompson Bradworthy
Philip Martin Montesa 4rt Chichester
Trevor Widdowson Montesa 4rt Chichester
Marcus Faulkner Scorpa 250 Dorking
James Laker Montesa 250 Bridgend
Robin Martin RCM Sherco Redruth
David Richards RCM Beta 250 Hayle
James Lamin Montesa 250 Bridgeend
E Machines not A,B or c ridden by rider over 50
Andy Pattison Honda 200 Cowplain
Steve Sell Ossa 250 Lovedean
Geoff Muston Honda 125 Petersfield
Clive Charlton Beta 250 Coventry
Nic Draper Sherco Cheltenham
John Howkins Gas gas Kettering
David Lamin Montesa 250 Leeds
Stephen Farrell Offham
Martyn Goodall Gas gas Cheltenham
John Penfold Woodingdean
Colin Mew Beta 250 Cowplan
David Beckett Beta 250 Church Crookham
Steve Broadbent Alton
Kevin Stannard Gas gas 250 Derby
Chris Anstee beta 250 Newquay
F machines not A,B or C ridden by rider over 60
Barry Craig Gas gas Willington
Jon Bliss gas gas 125 Cheltenham
G Non championship Class
Terry Craig gas gas 125 Willington
Scott Martin Montesa 4trt Chichester
Mark Stubberfield gas gas 250 Surrey
Steven Tremaine KTM 250 Illogan
Simon Ferris Honda Xl 125 Truro
COLIN DOMMETT CHALLENGE LUSKY.COM BRITISH/ACU CLUBMANS SIDECAR TRIAL
A Championship
Seemond Stephens / Gary Davey RCM gas gas Newquay
Jon Tuck / Matt Sparks Beta UK.com Bristol
Robin Luscombe / Sam Luscombe Beta 290 Bradford
Rupert Kimber / Chris Kimber Beta 290 Rochester
B Intermediate Championship
Tony Crabtree / Jamie Howe trials outlet.com Sherco 290 Daventry
Mark Kemp /Ian Allaway Jam Scorpa Braintree
C Clubman Championship
Robert Head / John Stanley Sherco 290 Rocherster
Chris Dakin / John Stanley Sherco 290 Matlock
Peter Dale /Barry Pocock Beta 270 Guildford
Shaun Jenkin / Phil Highland Gas gas 321 Bodmin
Mick Treagus /Steve Gould Gas gas 300 Elmsworth
Michael Jewell / Nathaniel Collins St Newlyn East
Andrew Jewell / Kelly Jewell Gas Gas 321 Launceston
Phil Sparks / Roger Tuck Bristol
David Tuck / Steven Chandler Wessex Beta Horton
D Newcomer Championship
Tristan Jenkin /Carl Jenkin Gas gas 249 Bodmin
Sam Rule / Gareth Udy Sherco St. Austell
Alistair Allan / Nick George beta 250 Ely
COLIN DOMMETT TRIAL
CAMBORNE AND REDRUTH MOTOR CLUB LTD
WITH ASSISTANCE FROM THE PENDENNIS MOTOR CYCLE CLUB
Incorporating Challenge Lusky.com British /ACU Clubman Sidecar Trial and the ACU Traditional Trials Series Sponsored by Normandale
Permit Number ACU 27939 National Steward Tim Fairbrother
Welcome and thank you for entering the trial, we are holding the trail at a different location this year and hope you all enjoy your time in Cornwall.
The Start / Finish will be at the Coppice Inn Lanner Redruth TR16 6JB This is situated just off the A30 slip road Scorrier.
Signing in and machine examination will be open at 0830hrs
The first solo rider will start at 0930hrs, the first sidecar will start approx 10.45hrs
All sections will be on private ground spread over 5 locations, with road work off approx 15 miles.
A vehicle will be available to transport petrol to the halfway point please label your cans clearly and don
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http://www.camborneandredruthmotorclub.co.uk/index.php
Program is here but no riding No's yet. I think on final instruction letter I received that no's would be on their web site from the 4th March.
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don't want be depressing but also sounds a bit like the fuel pump. Fine on low revs and when cold but once really warm just coughs and splutters when revved hard.
Mine was particularly bad having ridden a series of long stream sections then accelerating up the bank and away.
Best option is to swap and change a few bits.
Worth checking earthing wires on the coil - if its worse when wet
Best of luck
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Nice to hear old Gertie is back on song - what was weather like - been better than expected here in South Wales so trust not too bad in the cotswolds.
Have found in the past that if you foul a plug they will miss and back fire - need to get them warm to run right. If its just the plug if you leave bike ticking over seems to get warm enough to clean the plug off.
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