nigel dabster

Football number of substitutes, ditto rugby. Change of offside rule in footy. Golden goal. video replays in rugby and cricket. F1 changes its fundamental rules every year!etc etc

The fact remains and I am only putting an alternative view, with no conviction, that the wtc would have moved on anyway and even if it had stayed no stop for the last 20 years whose to say we wouldnt still only have 10 competing cos its not viable for the rest? Its stop allowed now which is the preference for the french riders but we have lost a few who still ride a bit. Gibert and blazusiak have both moved on to enduro and away from trials why? Anyone who thinks no stop at btc or wtc level has some serious arguments to find as Ive never seen one which would increase numbers of riders at this level. But that isn't to say that no stop would have advantges, just cant see where the extra riders will come from. Fundamentally rather than this set of rules or that set we need discuss how to get more to take up the sport.

Lets face it whatever bou cabes and raga can do stop or no stop we can't even cotemplate so its a non argument that a change in rules would make a mortal think anything other than "thats amazing but I couldnt do that" just the same as messi swerving the ball into the top corner. but the little lad will go and try to emulate and get better and wwant to be out on his bike or kicking a ball. Any top eponant will do what most of us thaink as very difficult, its what I thought when I saw the reults of my first centre trial back in the seventies, there was a gap then and it didnt put me off.

So why are there two sets of rules now?

So tell me which part of the polish round was like an indoor trial? Was Fort william an indoor event> Was carlisle?

Did it on line took less than 10 minutes, well done ACU, well done john Collins and all on the t &e committee.

get a big flywheel weight fitted, this transforms the bike and turns it into a modern day ty 80.

just cant get on with bar ends.

..and a beader.

sorry reckon about 5500 in the uk in pounds?

Doesn't need updating every 5 minutes unlike the raga and will sell itself if priced right as the Scorpa did. Yea the scorpa was such a success the company went pop

6100 for 250 6300 for 300 apparently

Is it our perception this side of the pond Obama promised so much and has delivered, what?

I thought that. Wheels and brakes much the same. What worries me is that a bike like this and the ossa simply take sales from other makes, but will they go the way of alfer merlin meccatechno and others? Ecomony in dire staits who would want to launch a similar product???

Exactly, I have run no reservoir just a bit of tubing on several bikes now never had a problem, certainly cant remember the last bikes rear reservoir I topped up if ever?

The explorer is 6000euros so I guess

if the repsol is programmeable go for that.

Dont think it would cost beta much(anything?) for james to compete.

well done acu!

Just the same as montesa in japan is a honda the scorpa is a yamaha.

ossa this jtg that wheres the customers?

i can actually see that the no stop at centre level makes more sense as waiting around for one or two hoppers is killing the enjoyment of others.Specially on four lappers round a field in southern centres. I also think the demand that btc taking on long one lappers ie jack wood (and the like) would spoil that trial for the majority as the severity would change,surely?

so we go no stop the severity drops and more join in? so what about the severity drops and more join in, stop permitted?

I can see both sides and my favourite trials are no stop. But can someone explain why at btc and wtc this would increase entries?