Pre-65 Bikes

Sorry if it's a bit basic or has been asked before but........ is there a set of rules that pre 65 bikes have to follow or do different clubs have their own? I couldn't find anything on the ACU site, in fact couldn't find much apart from the Yorkshire Classic Trials site (good site). Anybody help? Thanks.

I'm needing to change the back tyre on my 350 Matchless. The options available are a Michelin x lite or x11, an IRC, or a Dunlop. These are all designed with modern machinery in mind, but can anyone provide any advice on which wiuld best suit a heavyweight pre-unit?

My G3 Matchless uses a Lucas wader magneto with manual advance retard, as it would have been back in the day. The majority of unit 4 strokes and most of the two strokes have all moved to electronic ignition, which potentially leaves the pre unit further behind... What ignition system are you using for you pre unit bikes? Is it an improvement on the original magneto, and is it worth changing?

here you go a shot of a pre war Panther Stroud. I do like the holes on the mudguard stays. This is taken at the factory in Cleckheaton in 1946

Just a quick note to let you all know that the entries for the Kinlochleven Pre-65 in May are now open...you'll find the forms on the SSDT website if you're interested. Update : The website address is www.ssdt.org!

A close friend has a BSA C15 (roadster) and a Triumph Tiger Cub (trials) that have been garaged for a little while and intends to dig them out soon, and i'm thinking on getting my first Pre-65 (BSA B40 ???), question is, now that 4-star petrol is no longer available ! What do you use/recommend ? Thanks. Gaff.

Retired to France a few years back. Kept my old TES Greeves in the belief that I might one day ride again. Maybe the Talmag. Maybe the Scottish Pre-65. Maybe some classic French trial. Didn't happen though. Sold the bike and reluctantly accepted that my trials-riding days were over. Since then, as one does, I've been trawling the sales ads for interesting pre-65 and twinshock bikes, just out of curiosity. Seems that there are less and less good 'uns available, so more and more must be mothballed in old blokes' (and lassies') garages. And, crikey, how the prices have steadily risen over the last decade or two! Eight grand for a Cub. Ten grand for a 350 CCM. Fifteen grand f…

Hello all Why do we have this so called pre 65 rule book which i hear quoted at every trial when clearly most of the bikes do not fit within the so called rules! Mcdonald cubs that do look the bizness and brand new dots that are 2010 made..how are they pre-65? frames are nothing like the originals front loops. there not meant to be altered are they. but all the trails i have been to recently the organisers havnt battered an eyelid. it seems ok to run these trick extra light engineering genious machines..but its not pre 65. How do the dots get into the scotish? there not pre 65/67. Am i loosing the plot bringing this up does anyone else seem to be bothered this all happe…

Anyone know the result? Haven't seen them anywhere yet.

Hi Any news from kinlochleven?

Can someone please confirm what items are legal for pre65 scottish. I am rebuilding my cub at present and would like to keep within these regulations. i hope at some time in the future to compete in the event. I know I am stirring up a hornets nest but I need to know.

Hi I am building a Francis barnet up and am looking for a tank to suit. I know about the lovely holtworks tanks and also the ossa? style tanks that look very nice too. But does anyone know of any more tanks that suit the bike? Ideally looking for something slimline and not too expensive (not that the others are expensive for what you get) i just want to keep my budget down. thanks

Hi all, Despite new oil pump / parts (design 1939...) Do need a "oil tap" or keep draining ~250ml before each ride.. Will kindly ask if you might have idea where to search for a tap hose/hose joint not restricting the oil flow...as tiny tap as possible, to be fitted close to the oil tank... Or I have to reweld a tap joint at the bottom of the oil tank... The "output" hose is hidden betwen the engine/gearbox... Father did assemble a rather big tap on his Pre-unit Triumph...where a lot of space is available.. Cheers,

hello I have a triumph tiger cub and just wondering about upgrading my forks ! does any one have any ideas what will fit and take my front wheel with no much hassle ???

where is the best place to pick up a pre65 2 stroke? looking at a sprite or james twinshock shop has both but the sprite has a modern carb but should be ok to change over james looks ok.

I've acquired this Aluminium tank which has Triumph transfers on but I don't know what model it's for,can anyone help. I've just set up an MSN group to place some pics of it : Twinshock Info I don't need it so would be willing to swap/px for a TL125 bottom end or Dalesman bits or 70s Suzuki MX/Trail stuff. Thanks in advance Loydee

Pre65 Entry Form 2009 from SSDT Site Vinnie 2009_P65_Form.pdf

What would be a reasonable amount of ground clearance for a pre65 bike I’ve just measured my frame and I’m getting about 10 to 11” with 360mm shocks

Hi All I need some help, I want to compete in pre 65 probably with a Cub or C15. Is there a set of rules as to what can and cannot be modified, for example to be eligable for the Scottish and the Talmag. I won't be getting an Otter or anything like that but I do like modding my bikes. Seeing bike's like Mick Grants of which very little seems to originate from before 1965 lets me think any thing goes, then I hear about no electronic ignition, no concentric carbs, no oil in the frame etc etc. I am confused!!!! P.S I'm not critisising bikes like Micks, I think they are wonderful and would build one tommorow if I had the ability.

I did a silly thing today, I totalled up how much I have spent on my engine rebuild (a Villiers 32a) Including the buying the engine its cost just over £900 and I still haven’t got an ignition yet! I didn’t expect it to cost so much, the last time I rebuilt a complete engine it cost less than £300!