johnnyboxer

I went to look at an 1983 IT175 yesterday for Vinduro's It was a sound and mechanically good example (maybe needed some carb work), with ok cosmetics - good but not mint, not road reg (another £200 needed at least) and the guy wanted £1800 for it - no movement I really couldn't see £1800 in it for a 30 year old bike, which still needed some (unquantifiable) work and registering - when for £2k there's some cracking modern Enduro and Trials bikes around I think I need a re-think

Can't get the slideshow to work this week, Neil

Don't knock it, those 1750HL's were ok in their day and good for sticking a trials rack on the back I agree, there's some pretty average bikes (in their day) making stupid money nowadays and in comparison to what a modern bike will do, it's nuts I've had a few Jap classics in the last 10 years, DT175MX, RD400c - bought before prices went nuts and bought with rose tinted specs and memories are best left firmly in the past when they were good in their day, but woeful nowadays

It don't matter, Repsols only have a plaque and some Carbon bits, which you can purchase anyway Nice bike

There's a lot of fakes too

Stickers on eBay or just buy a new stickered mudguard is probably easiest

Waist high scissor lifts are well worth it

Why would they want to? There are loads of 2 strokes already & the 4RT is a cracking 4stroke

Try Gas Gas, they make them and they sell bits

CN do an offroad laid up policy for fire & theft for about

Not this old chestnut again Decent pair of walking boots, are your friend

Merry Christmas trialsters

More pics needed

It's still aircooled, so why the problem

Well said Charlie Dictator, Andy is most certainly not - but he has to be strict and rightly so Any info about bad service from a supplier needs to be factual and accurate, otherwise it is a very serious matter and as always there are 2 sides to each story and if a supplier doesn't voice his, then we only have the OP's version of the story - which may or may not be correct, for all we know?

I use Elf HTX in the gearbox & it's brilliant

Don't think I'd be putting 10/40 engine oil, in the gearbox

Agree with the last 2 posts, 4RT is a very nice ride and when you get a clean on one, you have a big grin

Brilliant bits of kit, just attach the stand's springs to the pegs and you can remove both wheels etc Recommended

That's nice

Any pics of the other side

Just what i thought

Blimey, a lot of topics & issues covered there, John Collins I have to agree with all of them Trials has changed a lot, WC was hard 30 years ago & it is now It has evolved & stop allowed inspires a lot of today's young'uns Stop allowed has no interest for me though, I'm too old but I still try to ride & participate Don't know if I'm a typical returning rider, but here goes I'm 47 & I'm an occasional rider maybe once a month I started Trials at the age of 13 introduced by an enthusiastic Dad Trials on Dartmoor as a schoolboy was a challenge, but achievable & I rode every weekend along with 10 school friends - we had fun I carried on until about 20 ish & then got into trailriding/ Enduro in Yorkshire - before returning to trials in my 40's Now I have no desire to ride the big stuff & admire the youngsters that do - they are amazing I can't ride like that, so all I want today is a good day's ride feel like I've a good day's sport & a bit of craic So I participate, but have to choose my trials carefully because some are way above my ability - hence a lack of participation some weeks as there are non within my ability So that puts me off & sometimes there is a perception that it's too difficult with stop allowed & big rocks etc Therefore no stop is generally to my liking because I can have a bash I think there is a big gulf between my age group & the under 30's in skill level & it's wider than it has ever been Some people say, buy a Twinshock & ride an easy course - but I want to ride a modern bike but on realistic courses This is where participation falls down, as John says many people are put off by the difficulty & grass roots dies off For me I'm going to ride the trials I can manage & help observing the ones that are too difficult for me, so I'm still involved I'm not sure what the answer is, but for sure the bikes are too specialised and the courses are too hard now, for many of grass roots competitors

More women riders in spandex, Tubby Agreed

Fair enough