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keep the diet going perce and you could look that bad...... well in a couple of years anway suit when you starting riding again, too cold for the one piece so no excuses

Jonnybmac your missing the point. nothing wrong with hard trials at all but they dont need to be dangerous. In a recent NE centre trial of 3 laps 10 sections we had 5 people on the hard course. the winner lost 12 marks, a good ride if you have seen the sections, the 5th place guy lost 80 and the observing was rather slack so it could of been more, the NE is no stop. I'm not trying to get at the observers or the club here but the sections were not no stop because they had some big stuff which required set up to attack and the observers took this into account. People were minding for each other in this event, I may be old but minders in a club trial, why ? In contrast in some other recent trials I have assisted in marking out the guy who won the trial above has lost over 40 marks. No minders, no hopping just a focus on natural sections which in some cases were made deliberatly longer. The result is a capable middle course rider could have enjoyed themselves on the hard course, our expert, and being fair to the lad he is an expert, a genuine good rider, lost 40+. Now explain to me, your right i'm an old git, whats wrong with this approach ? Its how trials were when I started and its where, in my view, they need to go back to. Look at that superstars video from the 70's, Mart won losing a lot of marks but most people could attempt all of the sections. Compare that with the top class of the WTC now or even worse the top of the BTC, its just not working. Six people competing most of them losing around 100 marks and your telling us we need to look at this as the future ? If the hard section is a step you either get up or you dont. That does not mean its the only skill to test.

I'd rather bet that the first time that bike gets properly hot your undercrackers will be on fire ! A trials bike can melt a plastic rear mudguard at the SSDT on the road, thats the silencer. This bike has the front pipe under the seat ?

ok lets see on how many threads we can quote the term supply and demand in a night.......

Jimmy I am a self confessed 4 stroke hater who has recently finished a bottle of wine. IF you sell a newcomer a 4rt and they go to the start field when its raining they wont be able to get up the grassy bank to the secretarys car due to incessant wheel spin and will quit the sport. Without even paying a single entry fee. 4RT great on the road in scotland, so is a Harley !!!

thats painful to watch

what stands out from this post to me is the obsession in trials especially with younger riders and their parents with steps and generally big obstacles. The steps obsession comes from the WTC which younger riders understandably wish to emulate. The justification for stop permitted seems to be you wont be able to set up for a step or drop. Now try and think about this from the perspective of how to maintain sufficient people on the hard course at any given event from club trial to WTC. What you actually need are sections that all entrants can attempt but are difficult for the top guys to clean thus allowing more people to compete. The ideal section therefore in this scenario is not a six / eight / ten foot tall step which the top lads go up easily and every body else either fives or doesnt attempt. The ideal obstacle is not a six foot drop either which riders either clean or five by going over the bars. If we want trials to succeed we need to stop emulating trials with poor entries and start looking at what works. By this I mean clerks of the course need to stop relying on big objects to to take marks, its not the only way.

ok we may have views on this but dont make it personal. i'm suprised prices are going up in the current climate, everything has a limit in terms of what people will pay. Pubs on Tyneside are now almost empty,

I had imagined that Beta would get the bike to the event plus expenses for the rider ?

the world championship has 10 entries at best the british championship has had as few as 6 this year and telecat thinks the S3 championship with over 70 entries an event and sometimes over a 100 is a dead end ? please explain....

so as things stand Beta will have nobody in the indoors as a regular rider. wonder if they are concerend at all about this ? or will they be quietly pleased to avoid the expenditure ?

i cant see a lot of point in taking our kids off the electric bikes, petrol must be time limited now ? if that can run for an hour now in five years we could be riding trials on one on a single charge.

its ok to talk about the quality of the bolts and tell yourself the Scorpa and 4RT are the best made but they are not the best to ride. This is probably why the 4rt wasnt produced in 2010 (Mont had enough 2009 models left) and Scorpa went bust

If the rod kit alone is

Was Burgat seriously injured in the paris dakar a few years ago or am i thinking of someone else ?

I need an SWM !! you look at that video and you want to take part. looks like good times, maybe BTC and WTC could learn something

Son number 1 can ride his oset but needs a bigger one son number 2 is currently enjoying his push a long bike dad could take the kids to TTC for a holiday.......... in a couple of years !

i think the the clutch plates from one of the MX bikes fitted, maybe people jumped to a conclusion from that ? I think Honda only sell cranks for the MX bikes from memory but you can probably get aftermarket con rods, hopefully one will fit the 315 ?

no problem with grip with the Raptors and they dont seem to damage the soles of your boots. i'm not on commission but maybe i should be

I bought a set of Raptors in 2007 i'm still using them thats four SSDTs and three Reeth 3 days for a start never mind everything in between. get them bought, dont know if other brand titanium pegs are as good.

Thanks Andy, now listed

Hi I'm trying to place and ad but I keep getting error messages saying the country, region and city are too short and too long ? me no understand ? Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'd have thought United Kingdom was long enough an entry for country.

IF and its all just talk at the minute, but if Honda are pulling the plug then this may be the catalyst needed to force change. I dont know if Beta could afford to run Bou and Dabill but where would Fuji go ? Gas Gas already have Gubian, Raga, Brown, Grattarola and maybe Wigg which seems too many. On top of this the organisers cant afford to run the events without external support. The FIM need to look seriously at participation and costs.

most manufacturers of trials bikes deny there is a problem with issues like this or wait till a part fails then provide the new one under warranty. I think this is progress for us as customers.